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R.Bryan Stone,Chairman Bob Nix,AICP Assistant City Manager o
Rudy Garza,Vice-Chairman Development Services
Atilano 1.Buena Johnny Perales,PE,Deputy Director of
James Skrobarczyk Development Services/Special Services
John C.Tamez Faryce Goode-Macon,Interim Assistant
Johnny It Martinez Director of Development Services/Planning
Evon J.Kelly Miguel S.Saldafla,AICP,Senior City Planner
Govind Nadkarni Mic Raasch,AICP,City Planner
David Loeb Shannon Murphy,AICP,City Planner
Wes Vendome'',City Planner
ABSENCES: Gary Smith,Assistant City Attorney
Yvette Aguilar,Attorney I
None Beverly Lang-Priestley,Recording Secretary
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I. CALL TO ORDER
A quorum was declared and the meeting was called to order at 5:36 p.m.by Chairman
Stone.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion to approve the January 23,2008,minutes was made by Vice Chairman Garza
and seconded by Commissioner Martinez. Motioned passed unanimously.
III. PLATS
1. Continued Plats
Mr.Saldada read continued plat agenda item"a"(shown below)into the record and stated
this item has been submitted for a continuance to the March 5,2008,Planning Commission hearing.
a. 1006191-NP113
Rose Acres,Lots 17A-18B& 19-22(Final-4.79 Acres)
Located north of FM 665 and east of FM 763.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk,Mr.Saldafla stated that continuing the plat
does not affect the Commission's ability to have a certain number of hearings.
As a courtesy,Chairman Stone asked if anyone present would like to come forward in
favor or opposition. Nobody came forward.
Motion to approve the continuance to March 5,2008,was made by Commissioner
Nadkarni and was seconded by Commissioner Martinez. Motion passed unanimously.
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Mr.Saldafa read continued plat agenda item"b"(shown below)into the record and stated
this item has been submitted for approval. Staff recommends approval.
b. 1107153-NP013
Island Business Center Unit 1,Block C,Lots IA-1E(Final-
23.421 Acres)
Located south of Knickerbocker Street and east of Waldron Road.
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion for approval was made by Commissioner Skrobarczyk and seconded by
Commissioner Nadkami. Motioned passed unanimously.
2. New Plats
Mr.Saldaea read new plat agenda item"a"(shown below)into the record and stated this
item has been submitted for a continuance to the next Planning Commission hearing of February
20,2008.
a. 0208014-NP009
Saratoga Weber Plaza.Block 7,Lot 14(Final-0.574 Acre)
Located south of Saratoga Boulevard(SH 357)and east of
Jefferson Road.
As a courtesy,Chairman Stone asked if anyone present would like to come forward in
favor or opposition. Nobody came forward.
Motion to approve the continuance to February 20,2008,was made by Vice-Chairman
Game and seconded by Commissioner Tamez. Motion passed unanimously.
3. Time Extensions
Mr.Saldafa read time extension agenda items"a through c"(shown below)
into the record and stated items"a"and"b"have requested a twelve month time extension and
item"c"has requested a six-month time extension. Staff recommends approval.
a. 0805124-NP068
Legends of Diamante Subdivision(Preliminary-22.388 Acres)
Located north of Slough Road(CR 26A)and east of Rodd Field
Road.
b. 0106023-NP010
River Bend Ranch Subdivision(Preliminary-215.32 Acres)
Located south of Yorktown Boulevard and east of Rodd Field
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c. 0207028-P007
Summit Cove Subdivision(Final-2.79 Acres)
Located east of Laguna Shores Road and north of Rex Lane.
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Vice-Chairman Garza for approval of the time extensions as
requested. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Martinez and passed unanimously.
4. Water&Wastewater Acreage Fee Exemption
Mr. Saldafla read the following item into the record,stating this item is a request for a
water and wastewater acreage fee exemption. Mr. Saldafla stated the developers are requesting
the City waive the water and sanitary sewer acreage fees for South Prairie Estates Unit 2.
a. 0806146-NP077
South Prairie Estates Unit 2(Final-54.48 Acres)
Located east of CR 47 between CR 22 and FM 2444.
Mr. Saldalia stated the platting ordinance allows the City Council to exempt certain
areas from these fees subject to Planning Commission recommendation. This property is
located approximately two miles outside the city limits,located east of County Road 47 and
south of County Road 22,which is approximately one and one-half miles south of FM 43,
which is an extension of Weber Road,and one mile west of State Highway 286,which is
Chapman Ranch Road. Mr. Saldafla stated there is no adopted Master Plan for this area,and
the request could be made that they pay the required acreage fees. However,if there is no
wastewater or water available within the next 15-20 years,the owners would be eligible to get a
---- refund of their monies plus 5 H%interest. Staff is of the opinion that there willbeno
wastewater services extended to this area within 15-20 years. Therefore,staff recommends
approval of the waiver subject to a water and sanitary sewer connection agreement that would
state that if water and wastewater become available to this subdivision within the next 15 years
they will be subject to water and wastewater acreage fees.
In response to Commissioner Loeb,Mr.Saidafia stated that if the city extends water
and wastewater to the site after 15 years,the owner will be required to hook up within 12
months of the services becoming available and will be required to pay pro rata and tap fees.
Mr.Johnny Perales,Deputy Director of Development Services,stated the only
difference is that after 15 years,they would not be required to pay the acreage fees. They
would still need to pay the taps fees and surcharge fees and pro rata fees.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk,Mr. Saldafla stated the responsible party at
the end of the 15 years will be the individual lot owners, because these lots will be sold and will
no longer belong to the developer.
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In response to Commissioner Tamez,Mr.Perales stated water wells will not be allowed
in the ETI according to language that has been included in draft platting ordinance
amendments. Mr.Pereles stated that when the item was taken to City Council,that part of the
amendment was excluded from action,and will be worked on for some time. Mr.Perales stated
the only portion of the platting ordinance amendment that was passed was for the dead end
water lines only.
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion to approve the waiver was made by Commissioner Nadkarni and seconded by
Commissioner Martinez.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk,Mr.Saldeea stated the London School
District is required to pay the appropriate acreage fees and are required to play by the same
rules as everyone else.
In response to Commissioner Tamez,Mr.Perales stated a rough estimate for running
water to the subdivision is about$400,000 per mile.
In response to Commissioner Loeb,Mr.Perales stated that deed restrictions associated
with the property transfer ensures that future buyers/owners are aware of the fees associated
with the property. Mr.Saldaia stated that the agreement is also recorded with the County.
Motion passed unanimously.
IV. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
1. New Item
a. Case No.0208-01
Brown,P.C.(Wal-Mart Staples at Timbergate Streets)-A change of
zoning from a"R-1B"One-family Dwelling District to an
"AB"Professional Office District/PUD on 23.194 acres and a
"B-1"Neighborhood Business District on 8.847 acres resulting in a
change of land use designation from single family residential to
professional office.
33.6 acres out of Lots 17, 18, 19 and 20,Section 11,Flour Bluff and
Encinal Farm and Garden Tracts,located on the southeast intersection
of South Staples Street and Timbergate Drive.
Ms.Shannon Murphy,City Planner,presented the above case via Power Point,stating the
applicant is Brown,P.C.,and the subject property is located at the southeast corner of the
intersection of South. Staples and Timbergate Drive. Ms.Murphy stated the request is to rezone
from a'R-IB"One-family Dwelling District to an"AB"Professional Office District with a
Planned Unit Development Overlay for Tract 4 a"B-I"Neighborhood Business District for
Tracts 1,2 and 3.
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Ms.Murphy presented aerial photos indicating that Tracts I,2 and 3 are along Staples
Street and Tract 4 is at the rear of the property,which is where the proposed Wal-Mart project
will be located. Ms.Shannon stated the current land use is vacant with residential,church and
mini-storage to the west,residential to the south and east;to the north is a new commercial
development at the intersection,and on the northwest corner is Gold's Gym.
Ms. Murphy stated that staff first met with Wal-Mart representative,Jeff Hamilton on
November 28,2006, for an Early Assistance Meeting for a proposed commercial project. On
February 16, 2007, the applicant submitted a change request from "R-IB" One-Family
Dwelling District to"B-4"General Business District. On March 7,2007,the case was heard
by the Planning Commission with a recommendation of approval of the "B-4" General
Business District. April 11,2007,the applicant submitted a Traffic Impact Study to staff for
review. June 8, 2007, applicant submitted a revised section to the 115 with an alternative
residential scenario on the Wal-Mart property.
On June, 17, 2007, Wal-Mart withdrew their request prior to the City Council public
hearing on June 19, 2007. Applicant came back on December 21, 2007, with a new zoning
application. Ms. Murphy stated the information provided in the Commissioner's packet is
based on the initial information in that application. Ms.Murphy stated that one week prior to
the meeting, the applicant submitted a revised development plan, which staff has not yet
analyzed.
Ms.Murphy stated that the adopted Future Land Use map shows the site with medium
density residential along Staples and low density residential to the rear with an existing
commercial strip center development along this segment of Staples which continues to
negatively impact traffic movement on Staples Street.
Ms.Murphy stated that Section 28-4E of the Zoning Ordinance states,"It will be further
necessary for the applicant to affirmatively show that any PUD proposed will not adversely and
materially effect the public heath,safety and welfare of the inhabitants of the City and property,
public or private,along its perimeter and within at least 200 feet of the enclosing property lines
thereof, including the existing or planned streets, alleys, other existing improvements and
vacant land,shall be thus considered as to the impact on surrounding private properties, public
areas and facilities and the inhabitants and users thereof."
Ms. Murphy stated staff reviews all zoning change requests for consistency with the
adopted policies in the city's Comprehensive Plan. The PUD is a tool that ensures mitigating
measures will be included in the development plan in order for the project to be consistent with
the policies set out in the Comprehensive Plan. The project's consistency with the
Comprehensive Plan cannot be determined at this time because of the lack of information
provided with the original application in the Development Plan and the incomplete Traffic
Study.
Ms. Murphy stated several issues still need to be addressed by the applicant, including
buffering of incompatible land uses, landscaping, signage, driveway access, drainage, traffic,
noise,litter,security and safety,lighting and parking of overnight vehicles.
Ms. Murphy stated that, as required by law, public notices were sent to all property
owners within 200 feet of the property boundary. Additional notices were sent, as a courtesy,
to property owners within 14 mile of the property boundary. Forty notices within the 200 foot
area were mailed with two being returned in favor by the property owner; of the 1,3325
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courtesy notices mailed, 24 were returned in favor and 25 were returned in opposition. Two
notices were returned in favor from outside the notification and courtesy areas.
Ms. Murphy stated staff recommendation is for denial of the application based on
incomplete development plans and insufficient traffic information provided; or,to continue the
application, giving staff and applicant an opportunity to address the issues of traffic, noise,
litter, security/safety, lighting and the parking of overnight vehicles and obtain the necessary
information to make a properly informed recommendation. Ms. Murphy stated staff is in
receipt of a revised development plan received last week which has not been reviewed by staff.
In response to Commissioner Huerta,Ms. Murphy stated the development plan provided
in the Commissioner's packet is not the updated one.
In response to Commissioner Nadkami,Ms. Murphy stated that in a cursory review of the
new development plan,it appears the applicant has addressed most of the issues raised by staff,
except noise and traffic.
Mr. Bob Nix, Assistant City Manager, Development Services, stated that staff is
interested in how much noise is generated at the site and what the noise impact at the residences
is above the resisting ambient nighttime noise levels. Mr. Nix stated a suggested two mile
impact radius area should be evaluated for traffic impacts,and any major intersections that are
near that radius but outside it should also be evaluated.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk, Mr. Nix stated that staff would not be in
support of passing the zoning portion of this item with an agreement to work out the remaining
issues. Mr. Nix stated that the Commissioners do not have the correct site plan or a staff
analysis of the impacts of the project and mitigating factors. Mr. Nix stated that if the
Commission chooses to continue the item to another date, staff will need enough time to
properly review the new development plan and get the information in time for the Planning
Commission packet.
Commissioner Skrobarczyk stated it is his concern that if the Planning Commission has
only two chances to table an item before it is immediately forwarded to City Council as if the
Planning Commission did not make a recommendation, as recently done. Commissioner
Skrobarczyk stated he does not want to forfeit the Planning Commission's opportunity to send
their recommendation to City Council. Mr.Nix responded that this particular case has not been
continued in the past;and,it is clear to staff that there is not enough information to successfully
and completely evaluate the project.
In response to Commissioner Nadkarni, Mr. Nix stated four to six weeks would be an
appropriate amount of time to review the information, compile it and present it to the
Commission.
In response to Commissioner Nadkarni,Mr.Nix stated that the Institute of Transportation
Engineers has published a report that states their trip generation rates for super stores reported
in the manual published by ITE may be up to 50%too low.
Mr. Gary Smith, Legal Counsel, stated that the Platting Ordinance under the PUD
provision, states, "The Commission shall finally act on such plan and application within 21
days after submission in close or adjournment of public hearing thereon,where opponent shall
be promptly transmitted to the City Council has the recommendation of the Commission." Mr.
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Smith translated this to mean that if the public hearing is closed tonight, then the Planning
Commission has 21 days to take final action on the application and plan.
In response to Mr. Nix, Mr. Smith stated that if the public hearing is not closed tonight,
but continued to a later date,then,arguably,the 21 days does not start.
In response to Commissioner Loeb, Mr. Nix stated the reason the current proposed site
plan is different than the one provided to the Commission and public is because the applicant is
attempting to provide requested information, but it was received too late to be ready for this
meeting date.
Commissioner Loeb stated that considering the fact that the Planning Commission and the
public do not have the correct information to review the project,then the public hearing should
not be opened.
In defense of staffs timeline and actions, Mr. Nix stated that page 168 of the Zoning
Ordinance states that, "....no more than 45 days after submission of the plan of development,
the Director of Planning shall submit the plan with his or her recommendation along with the
comments received from other City department and agencies,to the Planning Commission for
consideration." Mr. Nix stated therefore, 45 days after Development Services receives it, the
Planning Commission must see it. Then,if the public hearing is closed,we have 21 days to get
it to City Council for action,all according to Code.
In response to Chairman Stone, Mr. Smith stated that the platting issue turns under state
law that gives 30 days to act on a plat once it has been submitted. If no action is taken with 30
days, the plat is automatically approved. Once the details of the PUD are worked out, if the
plat does not work,then it could be replatted.
Chairman Stone stated that before opening the public hearing, due to the size of the
audience, some timing guidelines need to be set. Chairman Stone stated that the Wal-Mart
representative would present his case, following by opposing statements by Mr. Dowling. As
the public begins speaking,Chairman Stone stated the three-minute rule will be implemented.
Motion was made by Commissioner Loeb to open the public hearing and was seconded
_-- _- by Commissioner Kelly. Motion passed with Commissioners Skrobarcyk and Martin opposed.
Public hearing was opened.
Mr. Ken Brown, legal representative for Wal-Mart, came forward stating that Wal-Mart
builds stores in cycles and usually begins construction in August, which is why they requested
the waiver to the 12-month period. Mr.Brown stated the new development plan was submitted
in response to staffs comments on the original plan. Mr. Brown stated Wal-Mart has done
public outreach,particularly an open forum two hour meeting last week,with a large number of
people in attendance. Mr. Brown stated the meeting was very civil and productive, producing
results incorporated into the new development plan. Mr. Brown stated an additional meeting
was held this morning with staff which was very productive, and stated that when staff does
have an opportunity to review the new plan,they will see that all issues have been addressed,
excluding the expanded TIA. Mr. Brown stated he believes all concerns can be worked out;
however,they are concerned with the timeline.
Mr. Jeff Hamilton, Civil Engineer for Wal-Mart, came forward stating that one of the
issues staff wanted clarification on concerned the noise on the site. Mr. Hamilton stated staff
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had asked them to do an acoustical analysis of the site, including background noises currently
present and then take into consideration the noise that would be generated by the site,
determining from this information how high the sound wall would need to be to mitigate noise
from the site. Mr. Hamilton stated that the new plan states that with the installation of a
specific sound wall system,noise levels will be in conformity with the existing noise ordinance.
Mr.Hamilton stated staff has requested a more specific noise level determination.
Mr.Hamilton stated staff also requested specifics on the type of noise wall that is
proposed;Mr.Hamilton stated they are proposing an LSE Sound Fighter System wall and
provided to staff information on options available for this wall.
Mr.Hamilton stated the next issue was landscaping,which staff had requested more
detail on the plan,including a list of plants and quantity and size thereof. Staff also requested a
landscape buffer at the rear of the site which was not included in the first landscape plan. Mr.
Hamilton stated that Robert Gignac of Corpus Christi is the landscape architect,prepared the
landscape plan and includes the quantities of plants,the types of plants,the height of plants and
other information. Mr.Hamilton stated that staff had requested a 30 foot landscape buffer and
they are providing a buffer of about 56 feet by moving the sound wall closer to the store.
Mr.Hamilton stated the next issue is lighting,stating that this lighting plan is similar to
the original lighting plan,the only difference being they include the detail of their light pole
and a few requirements placed on height by staff In addition,staff wanted more info on the
type of lighting and light shielding. Mr.Hamilton stated they have provided more information
as to the height of the poles as well as information on a couple of staff requirements concerning
height and shielding light from residential neighbors. A light schedule has also been provided,
which includes the types of lights,wattage and brand names. Mr.Hamilton stated at staff's
request,they limited the height of the light poles in front of the store to not exceed the height of
the building and,in the back of the store,not to exceed the height of the sound wall. Mr.
Hamilton stated he believes they have fully complied with staff's requests in terms of lighting.
Mr.Hamilton stated the next requirement was to attach renderings of the buildings to
the PUD so staff would know what a"coastal style"Wal-Mart Supercenter looks like. Staff
requested parapet walls on the rear and sides of the building to screen any rooftop equipment
and screens around dumpsters. Mr.Hamilton stated all of these requirements have been met.
Mr.Hamilton stated that staff had requested information on the signs planned for the
site. Staff requested monument signs;however,the applicant has requested to use a pylon sign
on Staples,which would be in keeping with the"B-1"Neighborhood Business District along
Staples,and a monument sign along Timbergate. Mr.Hamilton stated the signs have the same
architectural design as the building.
Mr.Hamilton stated their original plan included the staff requirement of restricting
access to the out lots along Staples. Mr.Hamilton stated the original platting process where
individual drives out onto Staples were not allowed.
Mr.Hamilton stated their outdoor display areas are limited to adjacent to the front of
the building and there is no intent to use the parking lot for outside sales.
Also at the request of staff,bicycle parking has been provided,as well as a pedestrian
access route to the store from Timbergate to the front of the store.
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Mr.Hamilton stated this sums up the changes that were submitted in the new
development plan provided to staff this week.
In response to Chairman Stone,Mr.Hamilton stated the site plan the Commissioners
are viewing on their screens is the new site plan submitted this week which staff has not had a
chance to review.
Commissioner Huerta stated that concerns previously expressed by staff in regard to
additional landscaping in interior parking areas does not appear to be addressed in the new
proposal. Commissioner Huerta also stated that his request for information on off-season
storage containers has not been addressed and stated that if off-season storage containers are
used,they must be screened. Commissioner Huerta stated there might be an issue with the
proposed signage in that only one pylon sign is allowed per lot,which could result in other
stores not getting a sign. Commissioner Huerta stated that access to Staples is an issue and he
suggests a barrier instead ofjust a stripe on the pavement in enforcing no left-turns onto Staples
from the development,which is a traffic engineering issue. Commissioner Huerta stated there
are many large cities with proper traffic control that protects citizens and we could learn from
them.
Mr.Hamilton stated the left-turn issue is addressed in Note 11 and Note 12 of the plat.
Note 13 calls for a traffic coning device approved by TxDot to be installed. Mr.Hamilton
requested an interpretation for additional parking lot landscaping for them to work with.
Commissioner Huerta responded that cones will not be enough; it needs to be an island,
a barrier that people can readily see and avoid. Commissioner Huerta stated that not only is
traffic count going to be an issue,but circulation as well.
In response to Commissioner Nadkarni,Mr.Hamilton stated they performed and
completed a noise abatement study which establishes that the wall needs to be 16 feet above our
dry surface at the rear of the store and establishes that needs to be within 35 feet of the curb line
of the drive behind the store. Mr.Hamilton stated this information was given to staff today.
In response to Commissioner Nadkarni,Mr.Hamilton stated they agreed to do a traffic
study and their traffic engineer is present and will speak to that. Commissioner Nadkarni stated
he would hold his questions concerning traffic patterns until staff has reviewed the plan.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk,Mr.Hamilton stated that maintenance of
the 56 foot buffer behind the store has been built into the design,being maintained on the same
time schedule that the rest of the site is maintained.
Mr. Steve Haffner,Traffic Engineering Consultants,Oklahoma City,traffic engineer
for Wal-Mart stated his firm did the original traffic impact analysis that has been submitted.
Mr.Hoffner stated they have met with staff and will be submitting an additional impact
analysis study with the additional information.
Mr.Hoffner stated the analysis primarily covers the area surrounding the site and street
network system around the site and the arterial extending from Saratoga down to Yorktown,
with traffic counts at most of the major intersections along there and analyzed those. Mr.
Hoffner explained the concept and procedure for doing a traffic impact analysis. Mr.Hoffner
stated there are several recommendations provided in the report with sketches. It includes
substantial improvement to the Timbergate intersection and also the extension of Timbergate to
the east in a form that would accommodate the traffic projected from the site.
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Mr.Hoffner stated that TxDot has undertaken a plan and was in the process of that plan
which would control access along this corridor,which has been delayed from a budget
standpoint. Mr.Hoffner stated the consultant for TxDot has provided a document that shows
where they plan on access points and Wall-Mart agrees to comply with that. Mr.Hoffner stated
that ultimately there will be a median along the entire section of roadway and they plan on
working with TxDot in developing what an intermediate type median might look like,a
physical bather controlling the left-hand turns into or out of the site,and there will not be any
additional driveways to the arterial streets from the site.
Mr.Hoffner stated staff has requested the study be extended to a two-mile radius of the
area and the applicant has agreed to work with the traffic engineer for the city to determine
which intersections need to be analyzed.
Mr.Hoffner stated the recent neighborhood meetings have brought up some excellent
points and staff has asked them what the impacts of this site are if,for example,Timbergate is
exteneded to the east. Looking at some of the master plan issues with some of the
interconnectivity with the streets to the east and also with the streets to the west,in particular
Hunt,which has a potential for a cut through type of configuration. Mr.Hoffner stated he
looked at the current traffic counts at Hunt and Timbergate and today there is not any cut
through traffic. Mr.Hoffner explained the way he knows that is by how many right turns for
example in an east bound direction. If there were a lot of cut through traffic trying to avoid the
arterial intersection,Mr.Hoffner stated one would see a high rate of right turns and currently
there is not. Mr.Haffner stated this would site would be looked at to determine if any calming
techniques need to be implemented.
In response to Chairman Stone,Mr.Hoffner slated that by extending the study to a
two-mile radius will determine if other intersections in the area will be impacted by this
development. In response to Chairman Stone,Mr.Hoffner stated the cost of doing an analysis
on an estimated five intersections could be between$5,000 and$10,000.
Mr.Brown stated that the applicant has provided a notebook to each Commissioner and
staff which is a memoralization of the outreach efforts the applicant has made in satisfying staff
requests. Mr.Brown stated that if the Planning Commission continues the public hearing,he
would appreciate a definite date of continuance and that they could have the required
information within 21 days.
In response to Commissioner Nadkarni,Mr.Nix stated that the time frame it might take
staff to review the new development plans is based on how many issues are raised by what is
submitted. Mr.Nix stated that typically what is found in a traffic study such is this is more
impacts and more mitigation beyond the$1,000,000 that is being talked about today. Mr.Nix
stated that some point that becomes important enough that at least substantial negotiations
between the staff and applicant to determine how to resolve these issues to the public's benefit
with a minimal impact on the applicant. This could take a substantial amount of time. Mr.Nix
stated after receipt of the information from the applicant,staff needs adequate time to do a
professional acceptable analysis and review and present to the Planning Commission the results
of that. Mr.Nix stated six weeks is a reasonable time frame,which would set the case for
March 19,2008. Mr.Nix stated it is possible for the applicant go forward with certain items to
reduce their time frame,working parallel with this issue, The applicant can submit a plat at
their own risk,knowing it may need to be revised;they can submit the application for a
building permit with associated risk and expense,which would modest compared to the risk
they are taking if they wait. Mr.Nix stated these are options and things can be done,but that
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doesn't mean the permit will be issued until all the preceding actions have been taken. But
instead,they are asking the Commission to put a burden on the staff to come back with what
may be an inadequate and incomplete staff report and negotiation to mitigate the impacts.
Mr.Nix stated that the applicant has stated that there are not substantial differences
between this application and the one the Commissioners have. Mr.Nix stated that the
additional information needed for the sound wall was received by staff today. Previously,all
staff knew about the proposed sound wall was a line drawn on a piece of paper labeled"sound
wall"with no details. Also missing before and received today were the details on the signage
proposal,lighting height standards,arterial landscaping issues and a number of other issues.
Mr.Nix stated there are nine new paragraphs and several revised paragraphs in the new
proposal and staff needs to review and evaluate these items.
Commissioner Loch stated that if the public hearing is continued,he will not be
comfortable voting until whatever public documents are provided to the Commission,to staff
and to the public match.
Commissioner Skrobarczyk questioned as to whether part of the delay is hying to work
out the building issues during the rezoning phase.
Mr.Nix stated that in approving the PUD Overlay District the creation of a whole new
set of land development regulations,i.e.,laws,to govern the development of this project. If this
is not done and we get into the issuing a building permit or approving plat,we have the other
laws to deal with and nothing from this. Therefore,it is very important to get these issues
resolved at this level.
Mr.Smith stated that what is done in a PUD is that all the rules normally followed
regarding signage,lighting,setbacks,etc.,are rewritten especially for this development,
therefore,the details must be worked out up front so that when it is time to get the permit we
know what the answers are.
In response to Chairman Stone,Mr.Nix stated that staff does not create a new litany of
problems for the applicant,but has provided a list that the applicant must provide information
on,and if the information received generates new questions and problems,those will have to be
addressed.
Mr. George Bird,6646 Bent Trail,came forward in opposition,stating that he
purchased his home in November 2007,and before purchasing he researched the area and
determined that since the vacant land in the area is zoned residential he was satisfied that this is
where he would like to raise his family,only to find out now that the land may be rezoned to
commercial. Mr.Bird stated that brings up issue#2,which is traffic. Mr.Bird stated that all
the nice things and requirements of signage and lighting can be worked out,but the traffic is
there now and will continue to be there and this development will impact traffic two miles
away. Mr.Bird stated the area has a Master Plan and the purpose of a Master Plan is to plan
growth so that growth and expansion is not done haphazardly,but according to the plan which
was laid out. Mr.Bird stated this development will personally affect every life that owns a
house within a two mile radius because when they purchased they believed it would stay
residential. Mr.Bird requested that the Commissioners uphold its Master Plan;uphold what the
Commission told the citizens,through that Master Plan,when they purchased their homes in
that area.
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Mr.Tim Dowling, 8017 Villefrauche,came forward stating there appear to be alternate
visions for the area, 1)a reasonable development with the footprint of development as is
already located in area,the Market at Timbergate;2)or an"SPID"-like big box store four times
a deep as anything there now,eventually looking just like SPID. Mr.Dowling stated he
understands the Commission's jurisdiction is according to Article V,Section 3.4 of the City
Charter,"...to make recommendations to the Council regarding zoning changes in a manner to
ensure the consistency of such zoning or rezoning changes consistent with the comprehensive
plan." Mr.Dowling stated that basically means,"Here are the facts,here is the proposal for
Wal-Mart;does it or does it not match the Comprehensive Plan? Mr.Dowling stated staff has
documented nine instances where it does not match the comprehensive plan. Mr.Dowling
stated one of the requirements not met is,"Expansion of commercial uses into or within
residential areas may be permitted only if such expansion maintains or improves the residential
desirability of the impacted neighborhoods." Mr.Dowling pointed out this does not include all
of District 5,not all the south side,just the impacted area. It goes on to say,"....The
commercial development in residential areas may be allowed in situations where proponents of
such change,i.e.,Wal-Mart,can demonstrate how rezoning changes will benefit the impacted
neighborhood and the community." Mr.Dowling stated that giving citizens a choice as to
whereto shop can still be accomplished at a better location.
Mr.Dowling pointed out that at a previous City Council meeting when Mr.Brown was
asked some very specific questions,he admitted that if Wal-Mart did not get the location at
Timbergate and Staples,they would find another south side location,proving that if this
location is not granted,it will not result in Wal-Mart not locating on the south side.
Mr.Dowling stated that in a TV news interview,Mr.Nix admitted that allowing Wal-
Mart at this location will result in traffic gridlock. Mr.Dowling stated that the traffic analysis
provided by Wal-Mart is very deficient. Their own study states the roadway is nearly at
capacity and the study did not include holiday shopping days.
Mr.Dowling stated that TxDot's data indicates the traffic will go from 33,000 trips
currently to nearly 49,000,with 72%of the increase due to Wal-Mart. Another figure from
Wall-Mart's report states that if one is traveling west on Saratoga from Everhart to Staples,the
estimate is that 27%of the people will take that route. That's 13,600 cars going from Everhart
to Staples on Saratoga. Mr.Dowling stated their Wal-Mart's engineer last week at the public
house said traffic is like water,it will take the path of least resistance. Therefore,the cut
throughs begin. One thing the engineer was not aware of was that the cut through on Hunt
travels past a big elementary school with only about four feet of sidewalk between the traffic
and the school grounds. Doing the math,if 25%of the aforementioned 13,600 cars figure out
the cut through at Hunt,there will be about 3,400 more cars passing by this elementary. If you
do only half of that,it is 1,700 mom cars passing by.
Mr.Dowling stated that Wal-Mart's"traffic neutral"theory is established in part
because of expanding the turning lanes at Saratoga and Staples,which is a TxDot decision and
Mr.Dowling stated it is his understanding that that is not going to happen. Therefore,the
"traffic neutral"conclusion of Wal-Mart is flawed. Mr.Dowling stated that in conversation,
Wal-Mart's representative stated that if their study is flawed and the result is not"traffic
neutral"Wal-Mart would not pay what it takes to really make it traffic neutral at that time.
Mr.Dowling stated staff reports indicate two basic problems, I)not enough mitigating
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Mr.Dowling stated that Wal-Mart was informed form the beginning,in 2006,that this
project violates policy in that it is not at a major intersection. Wal-Mart decided to go ahead
anyway without disclosing this information in any of their polls or outreach.
Mr.Dowling stated another problem cited by staff is,"The proposed development will
encourage through traffic in residential areas to get to the Wal-Mart site." Mr.Dowling stated
that Club Estates Elementary is not the only school to be impacted. To the east is Faye Webb
Elementary and Raffle Middle School,totaling three school areas to be impacted,representing
a lot of children.
As an indication of Wal-Mart's thoroughness and detail,Mr.Dowling stated that in
Wal-Mart's report they had the number of pad sites wrong,and in the three reports prepared the
name of our town was misspelled. As for responsiveness,when asked if Wal-Mart would
change their hours from being open 24-hours per day,they refused,and when asked to restrict
the hours of delivery by 18-wheelers to daytime hours,they refused. Mr.Dowling produced a
crime report associated with Wal-Mart;and also stated that Wal-Mart will not address the
decrease in home values in the area as a result of their development.
Mr.Dowling stressed that he and his group are not against Wal-Mart;they are just
against Wal-Mart locating at this location.
Mr.Dowling stated that eleven months the Planning Commission approved this project
with a 5-3 vote with less information than is currently provided. Now,there is a staff report
providing nine instances where this project violates city policies. Mr.Dowling stated that it
would be a very poor reflection on the Planning Commission to basically ignore the staff's
report. Mr.Dowling stated he believes the Planning Commission should deny this request and
send it on to City Council.
Chairman Stone,at this point,implemented the three-minute rule.
Mr.Fred Dotts,4018 Sante Fe,Moorehead,Dotts&Associates,a marketing and public
relations firm,came forward stating that City Council Larry Elizondo hired the firm in June of
2007 to conduct a professional poll to survey the opinions of registered voters in District 5 on
this issue and Mr.Doffs stated he is here today to relate the results of that poll. Mr.Dotts stated
the poll was conducted June 13 and 14,2008,and 16.6%of the total registered voters in
District 5 responded. Mr.Dolts stated the question posed was,"Do you favor or oppose the
construction of a Super Wal-Mart at Timbergate and South Staples?" Mr.Dotts stated the
results were thus: in favor 1,215(63.7%);opposed 362(19%);and,undecided 331 (17.3%).
The following individuals came forward and spoke in opposition of the proposal,
primarily stating that the Master Plan does not support the development and that their quality of
life and their neighborhood will be impacted in a severe and negative manner due to the noise,
traffic and crime that is associated with such large developments:
Mr.Jim Robertson,6650 Mountain Wood;Mr. Larry Frank,6661 Bent Trail;Ms.
Cynthia Duanes,5317 Javelina Drive;Sara Graham,Realtor for 40 years and former
Planning Commissioner;Mike Ramirez,4022 Waldron;Ms.Betty Brandeslcy,4017
Cork;Ms.JoAnn Robertson,6650 Mountain Wood;Ms.Carol Robertson,7005
Spanish Wood;Mr.Terry Barta,6006 Baltic Court;Mr.Jack Graham;Carla Frank,
6661 Bent Trail;Sean Robertson,7005 Spanish Wood;Ms. Wallie Coley,5122 Golden
Eye;Mr.James Fritts,6001 Baltic Court;Ms.Ruth Samoch
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The following individuals came forward in favor of the proposal,primarily stating that
people need more choices in where to shop and that the city needs the extra tax dollars that
would be generated:
Mr.Abel Alonzo,1701 Thames;Mr.John Falcon,7534 Annemasse;Ms.Molly
Harrington,817-B Texan Trail;Mr.Hamilton Rogers,4118 Nicklaus,David Berlanga,
former Planning Commissioner,4521 Oso Parkway;Mr.Andrew Sanders,6005
Shelbum;Ms.Debra Carballeira,4201-B Acushnet;Ms.Linda Gamer,3802 Caravelle;
Glenn Ellen Dreggors,4649 Mildred Dr.;Mr.Ralph Cobb,5906 Vandemere;Mr.
Richard Cruise, 16 years military;Ms.Fay Cobb, 5906 Vandemere;Mr.Ronald
Pickett,8037 Etiennne Drive;Mr.Wayne Lundquist,700 Everhart Road
A complete tape recording of the proceedings is available through Development Services.
Motion was made by Commissioner Skorbarcyk to continue the public hearing and
was seconded by Vice-Chairman Garza.
In response to Chairman Stone,Mr.Smith stated they had 30 days to take action on
the plat,and that 30 days will probably pass before the public hearing is reconvened.Mr.Smith
stated it is possible that the current plat might not be consistent with the PUD that is eventually
approved. If that is the case,it will need to be replatted.
In response to Commissioner Skorbarcyk,Mr.Brown stated he would prefer the public
hearing be continued to a date specific time and that Mr.Brown felt 30 days would be
appropriate.
Commissioner Skorbarcyk amended his motion to reflect the public hearing be
continued to the Planning Commission meeting of March 19,2008. Amended motion was
seconded by Commissioner Loeb.
In response to Commissioner Skorbarcyk,Mr.Nix stated the reason staff
recommendation included the option of denial is because them is currently not enough
information or sufficient enough development order or agreement to deal with all of the issues
staff believes may be present.
Motion passed unanimously and the public hearing was continued until March 19,
2008.
Mr. Saldana read the following plat into the record,stating the plat has been submitted
for approval and it meets all requirements of the Platting Ordinance. Staff recommends
approval.
b. 0108007-NP004
Timbergate Center(Preliminary-33.584 Acres)
Located east of South Staples Street and south of Timbergate Drive.
In response to Commissioner Nadkami,Mr. Saldana stated that if the plat is not
consistent with the conditions of the planned unit development,then the plat will have to be
modified and re-approved by the Planning Commission. If the changes on the PUD do not
affect the planned unit development,then no further action would be needed on the plat.
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Mr.Smith stated that Section 28-5.b,the plan of development must be approved prior
to or simultaneously with the approval of the plat. In the event that the property has been
platted to the preparation to a plan of development,replatting may be required to ensure the
compatibility of he plat with the plan.
Mr.Hamilton came forward and requested that the plat be continued to the Planning
Commission meeting of March 19,2008. Motion to approve the continuance was made by
Commissioner Nadkarni and seconded by Vice-Chairman Garza. Motion passed unanimously.
V. PUBLIC HEARING ITEM-PLATTING ORDINANCE TEXT
AMENDMENTS(ITEM TABLED AT JANUARY 23,2008 MEETING)-
REQUEST ITEM TO BE TABLED TO FEBRUARY 20,2008 MEETING
1. Amendment to Section XIII;and add new Sections V.A,XIII.A and XIII.B
to provide for development exactions determination,an appeals process;and
provide a repealer clause.
2. Amendment to Section V.B to require connection to approved treated water
supply,to require looped water lines,and to modify the provisions for
reimbursement and developer share of water arterial,grid main and water
distribution line construction costs;to provide a repealer clause;provide a
penalty clause;provide for publication;and provide an effective date.
Mr.Johnny Perales,Deputy Director of Development Services,came forward and
stated that the two parts of the Platting Ordinance were taken forward to City Council and the
items were discussed at length. Mr.Pemles stated that staff was given direction to take
forward to second reading only those parts of the amendments pertaining to dead end water
lines. The other Platting Ordinance Amendments were tabled by City Council and staff was
directed to bring those back to Planning Commission for reconsideration at the February 20,
2008,meeting. Mr.Perales stated staff has been working on resolving issues identified by
the development community and City Council that pertain to looking at these items on a more
global scale. Mr.Perales requested the items be tabled to the February 20,2008,meeting.
In response to Commissioner Tame;Mr.Perales stated that under the amendments
as originally presented,two conditions would,hypothetically,apply to the subdivision waiver
heard earlier. 1)yes,they would have to extend approved water supply to the development;
and 2)the prohibition of the use of ground wells for water supply,and that the subdivision
could not occur as it has under the proposed Platting Ordinance Amendments.
Mr.Perales stated a cursory analysis was done and the existing Platting Ordinance
was designed to promote development on a relatively compact scale. For example,if one
considers a checker board and how it is laid out in squares,the intent of the existing Platting
Ordinance was for the City to grow one square at a time. The acreage revenues coming in
from the next square and the two segments of water line that would have to be extended to
that square,then one gets paid back. The revenues from the acreage fees are enough to cover
the cost of The water line extensions. But if that growth skips a square,which the existing
Platting Ordinance does allow,then it does not. Under the proposed amendments the
developer is responsible for the cost and would only get reimbursed by other developers
eventually tying in to that gap in development.
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Motion to table the item to the February 20,2008,Planning Commission meeting
was made by Vice-Chairman Garza and seconded by Commissioner Tamez. Motion passed
unanimously.
VI. NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEM-LONDON CLUB ESTATES
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
The purpose of the agreement is to delineate responsibilities of the City and the
developer as they pertain to the 16-inch arterial transmission water main.
Mr.Chip Baish presented the above case stated that London Club Estates is a
residential subdivision that is located to the west of State Highway 286 on FM 43. The
Development Agreement covers the 16-inch water line the developer proposes to install that
runs from London School to the subdivision and they are tying on to the 16-inch that runs along
FM 3 that London School previously installed.
Mr.Baish stated the subdivision is a 136 acre presidential subdivision with
approximately 1 I 1 one-acre lots,outside the city limits but within the ETJ. The plat was
extended for six months by the Planning Commission on November 28,2007. Mr.Baish stated
water line construction is a required as a condition of platting. On September 18, 2007,the
developer took a reimbursement agreement to City Council to receive funding for construction
of the 16-inch water main and Council denied the reimbursement agreement. The construction
cost of the$378,287.85 less the acreage fee of$83,018.88. The developer will take a credit for
that. The developer decided to construct the 16-inch water line at his own expense without
reimbursement from the trust fund.
The purpose of the Development Agreement is to delineate the responsibilities of the
City and the Developer related to the 16-inch water line. Mr.Baish stated areas covered in the
agreement include construction with the City's responsibility being to allow the developer to
design and build the water line as would be done for any public works project;the developer's
responsibility is that he will build and pay for the water line and provide a final cost estimate
for the 16-inch water line and a cost estimate for a 10-inch water line. Mr.Baish stated the
developer's engineer has determined that a 10-inch water line is all that is needed to support the
area,but they have decided to install the 16-inch line.
As for funding,the City has no obligation to fund any of the infrastructure costs for the
London Club Estates. The developer will be able to recoup the cost above what is required for
the subdivision,i.e.,the difference between the 10-inch water line and the l6-inch. The City
will collect the money for the developer and pay it to them within 60 days.
The City agrees to cooperate with the developer for any permits required for this
development. The City will accept ownership of the 16-inch water line once it has been
inspected and accepted by the city engineer as with any public works project. The City has
requested the developer provide a financial guarantee that will serve as a warranty of
workmanship and function of the 16-inch main in the amount of ten percent of the total cost of
the water line.
Park requirements will be waived by the City;and the developer agrees to comply with
all applicable codes,ordinances,rules and regulations currently in effect. The developer is
required to comply with all fire safety requirements and provide fire flow to each fire hydrant
that meets City fire protection standards.
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The subdivision will he developed with onsite wastewater treatment and,therefore,will
not be connected to city waste water.
The City has agreed to waive the lot acreage fees for water and waste water and also
the street light fees. The developer will pay water and gas taps fees,and water surcharge fees.
The lot owner will pay waste water pro rata fees,tap fees and surcharge fees at time of connect
to city sewer,provided the developer/owner properly condition conveyance of the lot. The
waived fees shall not include any development fees paid by the developer,such as plat
recording fees,tap fees,building or construction fees,and also there is a half street deferment
of County Road 26 that the developer will be responsible for.
Request Planning Commission approve the Development Agreement between the City
and the Billy and Robbie Sanders,Developers of London Club Estates.
In response to Commissioner Huerta,Mr.Baish stated the developer will install a loop
system through the subdivision,averting any dead end lines.
Commissioner Skorbarcyk expressed his concern that the area is developing in such a
way as to possibly prevent a greenbelt along Oso Creek,and suggested we might need an
easement for a parkway to back into this subdivision in lieu of the parks dedication land.
Commissioner Tamez agreed that the park fees are being waived because the city does
not want to take over a park that it cannot maintain,but he stated that developers could pay a
fee. Commissioner Tamez stated he expects rapid growth in that area and to not have a park for
the area would not be a good idea for the future.
Mr. McGinn stated he is aware of a large tract of land south of the creek that is being
looked at for a park by either the city or county.
Commissioner Huerta stated the Master Plan for the Oso Creek does show a regional
park on the end of Oso Creek behind the London School District,but land acquisition still
needs to be made. Commissioner Muerte stated the land would be about 280 acres.
In response to Commissioner Loeb,Mr.Smith stated the limitations on park trust funds
is that the park must be located within one and one half miles from the subdivision and we have
four years to spend the money or it is subject to be given back,and the city does have authority
to maintain a park in the ETI.
Commissioner Skrobarczyk reiterated his desire to see the Parks Department do a
visionary plan for a memorial parkway,similar to one in Houston,along the Oso.
Commissioner Skrobarczyk stated his fear is that the city is going to"hodge-podge"the area
out of any future potential for doing that.
In response to Commissioner Loeb's concern that four years to spend the money or
give it back is too short of a period of time,Mr.Smith stated the requirement of the four year
period before having to give back the park fee came about through meetings and studies by City
Council.
Commissioner Muerte stated that the Master Plan for the Oso area was created by staff
in coordination with Texas Parks and Wildlife and in conjunction with the stakeholders,and a
pattern book is being developed,which will be guidelines for development along the Oso for
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developers. Commissioner Huerta stated that whether this pattern book is adopted into official
guidelines will be up to the City Council.
Vice-Chairman Garza expressed concern that on one hand the City is discouraging
building in the outlying areas due to the City's inability to support those areas,and on the other
hand a development plan for the outlying area is being generated,sending mixed signals.
Motion was made by Commissioner Skrobarczyk for approval of the development
agreement,and was seconded by Commissioner Martinez. Motion passed unanimously.
VII. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Mr.Perales reviewed the following items with the Commissioners:
A. FUTURE SCHEDULED MEETINGS
February 20,2008
March 5,2008
March 19,2008
B. CITY COUNCIL ACTION TAKEN ON REZONING CASES
January 29,2008—No rezoning cases
C. ZONING CASES SCHEDULED FOR CITY COUNCIL
February 19,2008
Case No.0108-02,Ronald A.Von: A change of zoning from a"F-R
Farm-Rural District to an "1-2" Light Industrial District resulting in a
change of land use designation from agricultural to light industrial on
14.899 acres(Tract 1)and 2.000 acres(Tract 2)both out of Bohemian
Colony Lands, Lot 7, Section 14, located on Greenwood Drive
approximately 1275 feet south of Saratoga Boulevard.
Case No. 1207-01,Scott Electric Co.,Inc.: A change of zoning from
a "R-1B" One-family Dwelling District to an "1-2" Light Industrial
District resulting in a change of land use designation from residential
to light industrial Shoreline Park Addition,Lots 9 through 11,Block 8,
located on Dempsey Street, approximately 100 feet west of N. Port
Ave.
D. OTHER MATTERS—Excused Absences
Motion to excuse the absence of Commissioner Nadkarni from the Planning
Commission meeting of January 23, 2008, was made by Commissioner Skrobarczyk
and seconded by Commissioner Huerta. Motion passed unanimously.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn was made and seconded. Meeting adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
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