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MINUTES
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Council Chambers-City Hall
Wednesday—August 22,2007
5:30 P.M.
STAFF PRESENT:
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Johnny Perales,PE, Deputy Director of Development
Chairman Bryan Stone Services/Special Services
Rudy Garza,Vice Chairman Faryce Goode-Macon, Interim Assistant Director of
Atilano J. Huerta Development Services/Planning
David Loeb Miguel S. Saldana,AICP,Senior City Planner
Lyon J.Kelly Michael N.Gunning,AICP, Special Assistant to
Govind Nadkarni Development Services
John C.Tamez Shannon Murphy,AICP, City Planner
Johnny R.Martinez Wes Vardeman,City Planner
James Skrobarczyk Stephanie Voss, Project Manager
Chip Baish, Project Manager
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Gary Smith,Assistant City Attorney
Govind Nadkarni Beverly Lang-Priestley,Recording Secretary
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L CALL TO ORDER
A quorum was declared and the meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m.
II. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Vice-Chairman Garza motioned for Chairman Bryan Stone to continue to serve as chairman of
the Planning Commission and was seconded by Commissioner Kelly. Motion passed unanimously with
Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
Commissioner Tamez motioned for Vice-Chairman Rudy Garza to continue to serve as vice-
chairman of the Planning Commission and was seconded by Commissioner Loeb. Motion passed
unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
M. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion was made by Vice-chairman Garza for approval of the minutes and was seconded by
Commissioner Tamez. Motion passed unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
SCANNED
Planning Commission Minut� 111110
August 22,2007
Page 2
IV. PLATS
1. Continued Plats
Miguel Saldafla read continued plat agenda items "a and b" (shown below) into the record and
stated these items have been submitted for a continuance to September 5,2007.
a. 0507081-NP054
Chamberlin's Subdivision, Block 23, Lot 12A(Final- 0.189
Acre)
Located west of King Street, south of Marguerite Street and east
of North Staples Street.
b. 0807113-P044
Lexington Subdivision,Block 2, Lot 23A(Final Replat- 0.23
Acre)
Located south of Johanna Street between Ayers Street and
Richter Street.
Chairman Stone, as a courtesy, asked if anyone present would like to come forward in favor or
opposition. Nobody came forward.
Motion was made by Commissioner Huerta for approval of the continuance. Motion was
seconded by Commissioner Martinez and passed unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being
absent.
Miguel Saldafa read continued plat agenda item "c" (shown below) into the record and stated
this item has been submitted for approval. Staff recommends approval.
c. 0807114-P045
Los Arboles at Terra Mar Unit 2(Final - 15.46 Acres)
Located south of Holly Road and east of Rodd Field Road.
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or in opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kelly for approval of staff recommendation. Motion was
seconded by Commissioner Tamez and passed unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
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August 22,2007
Page 3
2. New Plats
Miguel Saldafia read new plat agenda items"a and b"(shown below) into the record and stated
these items have been submitted for approval. Staff recommends approval.
a. 0807120-NP077
Heritage Park Unit 2, Block C, Lots 2A&2B(Final Replat-
2.978 Acres)
Located west of Rodd Field Road and north of South Padre
Island Drive(SH 358).
b. 0807121-NP078
South Saratoga Acres, Block I,Lots II & 12(Final -9.889
Acres)
Located south of Saratoga Boulevard(SH 357)and west of the
Crosstown Expressway(SH 286).
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or in opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Vice-chairman Garza for approval of staff recommendation. Motion was
seconded by Commissioner Loeb and passed unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
3. Time Extensions
Mr. Saldana read time extension agenda items "a through e" (shown below) into the record,
stating these items have been submitted for a time extension of one year, with the exception of item"e"
which is for a time extension of six(6)months. Staff recommends approval.
a. 0705120-NP064
Barcelona Estates(Preliminary-62.54 Acres)
Located west of Kostoryz Road and north of Saratoga Boulevard
(SH357).
b. 0805122-NP066
La Concha Estates Unit 4(Preliminary- 106.79 Acres)
Located between State Highway 361 and the Gulf of Mexico,
north of Mustang Island State Park and Beach Road No.2.
c. 0706133-NP069
London Club Estates(Preliminary- 136.32 Acres)
Located north of FM 43,between FM 763 and County Road 33 and west of FM
286.
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August 22,2007
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d. 0806156-NP087
Gemini Subdivision Unit 2(Preliminary- 17.00 Acres)
Located east of North Padre Island Drive(S1-1358)and north of Bear Lane.
e. 0207015-NP01 I
Surfside Addition Unit 2,PUD 2(Final-2.12 Acres)
Located between Laguna Shores Road and the Laguna Madre
north of Caribbean Drive.
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or in opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Tamez for approval of staff recommendation. Motion was
seconded by Vice-chairman Garza and passed unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
Chairman Stone stated that agenda item "VII" would be moved forward on the agenda and
heard at this time.
VII. DEFERMENT AGREEMENT: HALF STREET DEFERMENT AGREEMENT
AMETRINE DRIVE,LEGENDS OF DIAMANTE UNIT 2
Chip Baish presented the case stating the Legends of Diamante Unit 2 Subdivision is located east of
Rodd Field Road and north of Slough Road. Via a Power Point presentation, Mr. Baish identified the
subject half-street on the location map and showed the engineer's cost estimate. Mr. Baish presented a
section from the Platting Ordinance that covers half-street construction. Mr. Baish stated that staff
recommendation for platting this property includes the requirement for dedication and construction of a
half-street and its related water infrastructure improvements for Ametrine Drive. The Corpus Christi Urban
Transportation Plan designates Ametrine Drive as a future "C-1" Residential Collector with a forty-foot
pavement width within a sixty-foot right-of-way.
Mr. Baish stated staff has determined that the best interest of the public will be served by delaying
construction of Ametrine Drive until its full right-of-way width is dedicated at the time the adjoining
property, South Lake Subdivision, is platted. Mr. Baish further stated that, according to the engineer for
that subdivision, they do not expect to bring in the plat for the section that adjoins at the half-street for two
years. The developer has agreed to pay cash in lieu of construction of the half-street and its related water
infrastructure and the funds will be placed into the Infrastructure Trust Fund,earmarked for future Ametrine
Drive construction. Mr. Baish stated that this delayed arrangement can be entered into with the developer
because each lot within the Legends of Diamante Unit 2 will have all required utility improvements and
access to streets as required in the platting ordinance. The Development Services engineer determined City
participation by payment into the Infrastructure Trust Fund is not required. A deferment agreement
between the City of Corpus Christi and JJAR Development, LLP,the developer,will allow the developer to
defer the construction of required improvements including construction of street pavement, curb, gutter,
sidewalks and water infrastructure until the tract of land along the west side of future Ametrine Drive is
developed and required to participate in the construction of Ametrine Drive. The developer has agreed to
deposit $91,491.90 in cash for the estimated cost of constructing the required improvements in compliance
with the platting ordinance.
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August 22,2007
Page 5
Mr. Baish stated it is requested of the Planning Commission to find that due to the uncertainty
of when the west half of the required street will be constructed and the safety issues associated with
construction of a half-street, there exists reasonable cause to defer the half-street construction
requirement to allow the developer to obtain final plat approval for Legends of Diamante Unit 2.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk, Mr. Saldana stated that the Legends of Diamante
extends up to Ametrine Drive. The area west of Ametrine is owned by a different developer, which is
the South Lake Subdivision. In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk, Mr. Johnny Perales stated it is
his opinion that when the time comes to build the road,the money will be there.
In response to Vice-chairman Garza, Mr. Saldafia stated there is an existing thirty-foot
dedication along the east side of what would be the continuation of Ametrine out to Slough Road. Mr.
Saldana stated the west half of Ametrine Drive will come in when South Lake Subdivision comes in and
plats their property. In response to Vice-chairman Garza, Mr. Perales stated there will be an account set
up for the funds specifically for Ametrine Drive.
In response to Commissioner Huerta, Mr. Baish stated that when it is built, the width of the
half-street will be forty-feet wide. Mr. Saldana further stated that Legends of Diamante Unit 2 are
dedicating their half of the sixty-foot right-of-way, which is thirty feet and when South Lake
Subdivision comes in they will dedicate their half of the sixty feet resulting in a full sixty-foot right-of-
way.
In response to Commissioner Loeb, Mr. Saldana stated the money put up by the developer is for
the frontage road in front of his subdivision only, and the east end of Ametrine Drive to Slough Road
has been dedicated, but that section of land has not been platted,and that it is a different owner than the
subject property.
In response to Commissioner Huerta, Mr. Perales stated that the account the funds will be
deposited in will be an interest bearing account to help off-set the rising cost of construction, and, in
addition,there is a ten percent cost contingency built into the cost estimate.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk, Mr. Saldafia stated that the thirty foot easement on
the southern end of Ametrine was dedicated by a separate instrument years ago; and that the thirty foot
easement does not extend north at this time.
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or in opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Huerta to approve staff recommendation. Motion was
seconded by Commissioner Skrobarczyk and passed unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being
absent.
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August 22,2007
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V. ZONING
1. Tabled Items WITHDRAWN
a. Case No. 0607-03
Silverado Land Development, LP: A change of zoning from a "R-1 B" One-
Family Dwelling District to a"R-2"Multiple Dwelling District
6.15 acres, McIntyre Partition, located approximately 150 feet north of the
intersection of East Riverview Drive and Bedrock Drive.
Faryce Goode-Macon, Interim Assistant Director of Development Services/Planning, came
forward stating the above case has been withdrawn by the applicant. No action necessary.
2. New Zoning
a. Case No.0807-02
Grace United Methodist Church: A change of zoning
from a"R-IB"One-Family Dwelling District to a
"B-1"Neighborhood Business District
Shell Poultry Acres, Block 8, Lot 6, located on Church Street and
approximately 300 feet northeast of Leopard Street.
Stephanie Voss, Project Manager/Development Services, came forward to present the above
case via Power Point stating the subject property is Shell Poultry Acres, Block 8, Lot 6, located on
Church Street and approximately 300 feet northeast of Leopard Street. Ms. Voss stated the applicant is
requesting a change of zoning from a 'R-I B" One-Family Dwelling District to a'B-1" Neighborhood
Business District. Ms. Voss stated the request is to expand the thrift shop business to an existing
building on the church site. The current thrift store building on the church site came before Planning
Commission last year in June and would remain in use as a storage/work area. The lot consists of
19,384 square feet which contains a building of 1,040 square feet, requiring an additional five parking
spaces. Ms. Voss stated the `B-1" Neighborhood Business District allows for retail and personal
service activities and allows for professional office uses such as banks, barber shops, service stations,
restaurants, art studios and automobile parking lots. Ms. Voss stated the future land use map supports
commercial expansion in this area. Of the twenty (20) notices mailed, zero were returned in favor and
two were returned in opposition.
Staff recommends denial of the 'B-1" Neighborhood Business District, and in lieu thereof,
approval of a Special Permit for a church-related thrift shop with the following five(5)conditions:
1. Uses: The only use permitted by this Special Permit,other than those uses permitted by right in
the"R-1 B"One-family Dwelling District, is a church-related thrift shop.
2. Building: The existing building shall be used for the church-related thrift shop.
3. Hours of Operation: Hours of operation shall be Monday through Saturday from 9:00 am to
4:00 pm.
4. Employees: Employees shall be limited to a maximum of six(6)volunteers.
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5. Time Limit: Such Special Permit shall be deemed to have expired within one (1) year of the
date of this ordinance unless the property is being used as outlined in Condition #1 and in
compliance with all other conditions.
In response to Chairman Stone, Ms. Goode-Macon stated that the current staff recommendation
reflects the same restrictions as those recommended in the June 2006 case at which time granted a
special permit for a thrift store on the first lot behind the church. The church is seeking to expand that
special permit to another one of their buildings with the same restrictions.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk, Ms. Goode-Macon stated that if the existing
buildings are destroyed or damaged to the point of fifty-percent, in order to rebuild, they would have to
meet the current"R-IB"building code. The applicant would have to re-apply for the special permit.
In response to Commissioner Loeb, Ms. Goode-Macon stated that sign compliance is not part of
this current case and cannot be addressed. Commissioner Loeb stated his concern is compliance with
the special permit when there are other possible code violations on or near the property controlled by
same group. Ms. Goode-Macon stated that there is a large number of portable signs in the Northwest
area that are grandfathered, and that if the sign Commissioner Loeb is referring to is not grandfathered
then it can be addressed through Code Enforcement.
In response to Commissioner Loeb, Wes Vardeman, City Planner, stated there was an on-
premise directional sign recently permitted.
Public hearing was opened.
Joan Morgan, 10921 Mayfield, Corpus Christi, Texas, came forward in support of the request,
stating she is available to answer any questions. Ms. Morgan stated that if the current buildings are
destroyed by fifty-percent,they will more than likely be scrapped and the property turned into a parking
lot. Ms. Morgan stated the purpose of the thrift stores is to provide lesser expensive,yet still nice, items
to the Northwest residents who need affordable items,and so far, it has been successful.
In response to Commissioner Buena, Ms. Goode-Macon stated that the original special permit
will remain with the original building due to storage uses.
Mr. Richard Kronke, 10209 N. Herrington,Corpus Christi, Texas, came forward in opposition to
the request, stating that in addition to the thrift store, the back half of both lots is used for the child
daycare center. Mr. Kronke stated his concern is when and where the commercial development is held in
check, stating that he owns two residential lots across the street. Mr. Kronke stated that in 2003 they
requested a zoning change and platting for a "B-I" Neighborhood Business District and staff
recommended the back half stay residential. Mr. Kronke stated the reason given at the time was that it is
"quiet, quaint, secluded and a unique neighborhood". Mr. Kronke stated that if that area is now going
commercial that's what he wants to do with his property.
Mr. Kronke stated that the road his property is on is a dead end road and that parking for the
church spills over into the street like garage sale parking and he doubts that he could sell his residential
property to anybody because of the parking and because of the child daycare center being directly across
the street. Ms. Goode-Macon reiterated that staff is recommending denial of the'B-1" District in lieu of
a special permit for the transitioning process of this area.
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In response to Commissioner Skrobarezyk, Mr. Kronke stated his original request to rezone his
property was in April of 2003. Ms. Goode-Macon clarified that Mr. Kronke's property along Violet Road
was granted a "B-1" for the front two lots and the back was retained as "R-1B" due to the existing
residential property at that time.
In response to Commissioner Tamez, Ms. Goode-Macon stated that a review of Mr. Kronke's
case would have to be made to determine zoning issues with his property.
In response to Commissioner Martinez, Ms. Goode-Macon stated the size of the requested thrift
store is 1,040 square feet and the existing thrift store is approximately 900 square feet.
Commissioner Huerta questioned when the Future Land Use Map would be updated with
consideration into what decisions are being made and how they will affect existing residential uses.
Commissioner Huerta stated his concern with the current process which forces the residential uses to exist
next to commercial uses when originally it was residential.
Ms. Goode-Macon stated that is part of the effect of"transitioning" land use planning and this
particular map has been reviewed by staff, by the Planning Commission and by City Council and was
acceptable at that time. Ms. Goode-Macon stated she believes the Future Land Use Map won't be
reviewed again for at least another year and that staff is currently working on the London Area plans.
Vice-Chairman Garza spoke in support of staff and the current Future Land Use Map,stating that
transitional zoning is the only way to actually accomplish the change in an effective and orderly manner.
Vice-Chairman Garza stated that the corner of Violet Road has changed dramatically over the past few
years,growing in commercial use due to the many small subdivisions going in around it and the only way
to accomplish the change from residential to commercial is slowly through transitional zoning. Vice-
Chairman Garza stated that as for the long term residents with ties to the area, over time people move,
land is sold off or the old-timers die and the property does not have the same meaning for the new owners
as it did for the original owners,making way for painless transitioning. Vice-Chairman Garza stated that
it sounds good to say, "Let's rezone the entire block all at once," but that is not reasonable or fair to the
existing residential property owners. Transitional zoning is an appropriate tool in changing with the
times.
Commissioner Loeb stated his concern is that commercial use would be limited on such a narrow
dead end street and forcing commercial use in the residential homes via special permit seems redundant.
Commissioner Loeb stated it is his opinion that the entire area be rezoned as commercial.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk, Ms. Goode-Macon stated the reason staff denied the
original request of `B-I" Neighborhood Business District for the subject property is because of the
continued residential use in the area.
Ms. Morgan came forward stating the thrift shop is allowed to be open six days per week,
however, they have chosen to open three days per week from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. and are encouraging
customers to use the parking lot as opposed to parking on the street.
In response to Chairman Stone, Ms. Voss stated there were two letters of opposition returned
from the same person,Mr. Richard Kronke,who is present and owns two residential lots on the street, but
does not live there. Ms. Voss further stated that none of the residents living on the street have voiced
opposition.
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In response to Vice-Chairman Garza, Ms. Goode-Macon stated that if existing buildings on the
church property are torn down, that property may be used as parking for the church without further
rezoning. In response to Commissioner Huerta, Ms. Goode-Macon stated that the parking lot is allowed
with the church within the `R-I B" District and would not have to be screened from residential
neighborhoods.
Motion was made by Commissioner Tamez for approval of staff recommendation and was
seconded by Commissioner Kelly. Motion passed with Commissioner Skrobarczyk and Commissioner
Loeb opposed and Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
b. Case No. 0807-03
Ryan McCarthy: A change of zoning from an
"I-2" Light Industrial District to a'B-4"General Business
District
Whelan Tract Unit 4, Block 1,Lot 2, located on Navigation
Boulevard and approximately 200 feet south of Interstate 37.
Wes Vardeman,City Planner,presented the case via Power Point stating that the case involves the
Hampton Inn Hotel on property located on Navigation Boulevard currently zoned
"1-2" and the applicant is requesting a change of zoning to a "B-4" District. Mr. Vardeman stated the
property involves two lots and was previously a transmitter tower. Mr. Vardeman stated that although the
aerial photograph does not show it, there is new construction of a hotel on one of the lots. Mr. Vardeman
pointed out for the Commissioners that there are many hotels in the area,as well as some restaurants. Mr.
Vardeman stated that"B-4" General Business District provides for all types of commercial uses, such as
multi-family, hotels and motels. Minimum front yard requirement is twenty-feet, zero lot line along the
sides and in the rear unless there is a residential adjacency, in this case there isn't. Mr. Vardeman showed
photographs of the hotel under construction stating that it is pretty far along in construction. Mr.
Vardeman pointed out the "1-2" District does not allow for hotels, which are considered temporary
residential. He further stated the `9-2" District does allow retail shopping and personal service uses, such
as banks. Of the sixteen notices mailed, zero were returned in favor and one was returned in opposition.
Mr. Vardeman stated the Future Transportation Plan calls for a 95 foot back to back with "A-3" Arterial
with an ultimate build-out of 160 feet. The potential traffic generated with the proposed hotel could
generate approximately 700 vehicle trip ends per day. Staff recommends approval.
In response to Commissioner Huerta, Mr. Vardeman stated it was a conflict in data that resulted in
the hotel being permitted in the "I-2" District, in that one map showed the property "1-2" and a different
one showed it as"B-4".
In response to Commissioner Tamez, Ms. Goode-Macon the zoning ordinance,which was crafted
back in the '60's, does not allow for mixed use of manufacturing with housing and is considered an
incompatible use,therefore,temporary residential is not allowed in the manufacturing area.
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or in opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Huerta to approve staff recommendation and was seconded
by Commissioner Tamez. Motion passed unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
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August 22,2007
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VI. PUBLIC HEARING — DEFINITION OF SIGN LEGAL OPINION AND UNIFIED
DEVELOPMENT CODE (UDC) SIGN FOCUS GROUP FINAL REPORT AND
RECOMMENDATION
Michael Gunning, Special Assistant to Development Services, came forward to present a summary
of the Unified Development Code (UDC) Signs Focus Group and their Final Report and Recommendation,
stating that the process began in 2005 with the hiring of the consultants to prepare a Unified Development
Code. However, before moving forward with the May 2007 draft document of the Unified Development
Code, Mr. Gunning stated there was a strong need and indication from City Council that staff work with an
Ad Hoc Sign group address some of the major concerns of the existing 2005 sign regulations. Therefore, in
May 2006, an Ad Hoc Focus Group was formed with Camm Dougherty of Homeport Signs serving as
chairman. Mr. Gunning stated that through their work efforts with staff,the group proposed to regulate the
sign allowances based on the functional classification of the street that a property fronts on,whether it be an
arterial or residential instead of by zoning district. Those amendments were adopted by City Council on
April 11, 2006, and then amended on August 22, 2006,to add some additional arterial roadways to the list
and another amendment in January 2007 to address the LED type signage. The Ad Hoc Focus Group was
asked to reconvene in December 2006 to review the signs section of the draft UDC. The group met bi-
weekly through April 2007, reviewing many miscellaneous sign provisions. Mr. Gunning commended the
sign group representatives for seeing it through to completion. Mr. Gunning stated that in addition to Ms.
Dougherty, others serving on the group included David Loeb, Vice-Chairman, Planning Commissioner
Javier Huerta, Jay Porterfield, Chris de la Fuente and David de la Fuente, James Turcotte, Katrina
Campbell,Debra Mulch, Scott Meyers, Bryan Stone,Tim Painschwab and Regan Brown.
Mr.Gunning stated from the beginning, staff assured each Unified Development Code Focus Group
that it would be the recommendation of the focus group that would be brought forward for the public
hearing, hence, the information in the packet provided to the Commissioners is the recommendation from
the focus group. Mr. Gunning stated the focus groups were also advised that if staff took exception to a
committee recommendation, both recommendations, i.e., staffs and the focus group's, would be presented
at the public hearing and properly identified. At this point, Mr. Gunning turned the presentation over to
Shannon Murphy,City Planner for the City of Corpus Christi.
Ms. Murphy stated that as reported to the Commission at the presentation on August 8, 2007, the
City does not yet have a Unified Development Code; therefore, the method of taking the Sign Focus
Group's recommendation forward is by text amendment to the City's existing Article 33 of the Zoning
Ordinance. Ms. Murphy stated that new provisions and definitions that are not in the current zoning
ordinance have been provided to the Commissioners in draft form. Ms. Murphy stated the jurisdiction for
signs has been extended to the ETJ, in that if a property is within 200 feet of an arterial or collector, then
those regulations would be applied when a sign permit is requested. Ms. Murphy stated that in reference to
sign maintenance, wording has been added stating that all signs must be maintained and must be replaced
with a blank panel within 90 days of the business closure or relocation. Ms. Murphy stated that any unsafe
signs must be removed within ten days or be in compliance with the ordinance within ten days. Also, a
prohibited signs list has been expanded, adding to the list roof signs, flashing and moving signs, streamers
and temporary signs on trees and utility poles. A list of exempted signs has been provided listing items
such as address signs, real estate signs and home occupation signs. Illustrations of signs have been added
and the sign standards for each of the sign types have been grouped together with illustrations. Ms. Murphy
stated the Focus Group also included specific standards for each sign type. Provisions for allowing
additional signs for uses such as fuel sales and new vehicle sales and service have been added, as well as a
time limit for abandoned signs of 90 days that are nonconforming.
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Ms. Murphy stated that staff concurs with the Focus Group's recommendation with the exception of
two items. The first item is the definition for "sign". Ms. Murphy stated the Focus Group proposes a new
definition for "sign" as follows: "Any device that conveys a commercial message. See `commercial
message'." The definition given for "commercial message" is: "A message placed before the public that
calls attention to a business, product, service or other commercial activity." Ms. Murphy stated that staff s
recommendation is to keep the current zoning ordinance definition with a modification from legal Counsel
for "sign" which begins, "A device, structure, frame, letter, figure, character, mark, " Ms. Murphy
stated the definition is lengthy and has been provided for review in the Commissioner's packet, along with
the legal opinion from Legal Counsel on the definition for"sign".
Ms. Murphy stated the second item staff does not concur with the Focus Group's recommendation
to delete the existing list of arterial roadways that are regulated with collector street standards; and it is
staffs recommendation to keep that list.
In response to Commissioner Huerta, Ms. Murphy took note of a correction to the Commissioner's
packet under"Miscellaneous/Off-premise Signs", stating the standards referred to should read,"Article 33-
1.20".
Public hearing was opened.
Nobody came forward in support or in opposition.
Public hearing was closed.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk, Ms. Murphy stated that keeping the existing list of
arterial streets with collector street provisions is staff recommendation and the Focus Group recommends
deleting that list.
In response to Commissioner Kelly, Commissioner Loeb stated the Focus Group recommends
deletion of the existing list in an effort to keep everything standard and fair for everyone. Commissioner
Loeb stated originally the group wanted to base signage on the size of the street so the proper signage could
be determined based on safety, aesthetics and ultimately to encourage larger developments in an effort to
minimize curb cuts, thus the reasoning for multi-tenants to get larger signs. The desired effect was to help
with the aesthetics by encouraging developers to decide on larger developments with one multi-tenant sign
as opposed to many smaller businesses with many smaller signs. However, over time it appeared that this
provision was not being used for its intended purpose and re-introduced the practice of spot zoning.
Therefore, the Focus Group determined that in order to keep things consistent the existing arterial street list
should be deleted.
Ms. Murphy stated the sign dimensions being proposed are actually larger than what the consultant
had recommended in the original draft of the UDC. Ms. Murphy stated that staffs intent of keeping the
existing list of arterial streets with collector street provisions was to protect the adjacent residential areas
along these arterial and collector streets.
Mr. Gunning added that staff had agreed with the committee that the committee's recommendation
for the regulating signs based on their street frontage would be incorporated into the Unified Development
Code as the basic standards. Mr. Gunning stated that committee members and staff worked hard to come
up with that plan and it will be with us for a long time.
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Commissioner Huerta stated that if we do not regulate the arterials as collectors we still have the
instrument of zoning to exercise controls. However, for example, if a zoning is changed on Ocean Drive for
a lot they would be allowed to put up a big sign. Therefore, the issue is maintaining the character of those
residential streets that exist. Commissioner Huerta stated that it is important to look to the future and to
better plan what is done in the future. As for the past, this is an alternative plan to address things already
done and a good instrument to preserve certain existing neighborhoods and is a good protective layer.
Commissioner Huerta reiterated that if the existing list of arterials is deleted, we still have zoning as a
control measure;however,we must be very careful how zoning changes are handled in the future.
Commissioner Skrobarczyk stated that we are at the final stages of the UDC plan and we are not
hear to make a "stop-gap" measure, but attempting to establish the final, standardized UDC version.
However, Commissioner Skrobarczyk stated that already we are creating loop holes, hoping that zoning
will provide protection, but we are actually creating potential for many "exceptions". Commissioner
Skrobarczyk suggested that the designation of streets should change with the changing street, for example,
if a road designated as a collector for the future does not develop into a collector,then the overall zoning of
that street should be changed to fit whatever the street has become. Mr. Gunning responded that he has
never seen streets downgraded from a given designation in the Transportation Plan. Ms. Murphy stated the
situation would be addressed and rectified through a text amendment to remove an arterial from the list,
which is initiated through public comment or upon reassessment by staff. Commissioner Skrobarczyk
reiterated that that process exemplifies a loop hole in that it allows one to explore different options available
based on who and what one knows as opposed to being standardized for everyone, eliminating
uncertainties.
Mr. Gunning stated that it is important to realize that, as commissioners and staff, we recognize
when change is occurring and the impact it is having, or will have, on the surrounding land and
developments in the future, and to update area development plans accordingly. Mr. Gunning stated it is a
process,and the UDC has a provision for amendments built in.
Mr. Gunning stated that the committee members and staff worked on the list of arterials,
considering which streets and neighborhoods really needed to be protected. Everyone agreed on the
resulting list. Mr. Gunning stated the only arterial that became a problem was Northwest Boulevard. Mr.
Gunning also stated that something staff is hoping to do through the UDC is to look at minimum lot sizes
for properties converting to commercial uses.
In response to Commissioner Loeb, Camm Dougherty, Chairman of the UDC Signs Focus Group,
stated that Northwest Boulevard was discussed in the meetings and that the group recommended deletion of
Northwest Boulevard and FM 1889 from the arterial list, and this request was prior to the initial Council
passage of the ordinance. Ms. Dougherty stated, however,that when the ordinance went to City Council, it
was a totally different section of Northwest Boulevard that was included, not the section as reviewed by the
Planning Commission. As for the rest of the streets on the list, the committee members were in agreement
with staff that those residential areas needed protection.
Commissioner Huerta stated there is no instrument that prevents change. However, certain things
do need to be protected from change and encroachment, such as Yorktown Boulevard between Everhart and
Staples which is residential;and Alameda which is residential.
Commissioner Loeb stated that base zoning protects Ocean Drive. He further stated that the current
process is purely politics, not even an application process like there was before and that he believes tying
signage to zoning is probably a better idea than this. Commissioner Loeb stated that at least the other way
one knew what would be next to you and it's not based purely on who you know and what you can get
changed. Commissioner Loeb further stated that the Future Land Use Map has that whole area being
commercial and there should not be any houses there to protect. The way to protect houses from heavy
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commercial use is by transitional uses of light office and apartments,not by saying you need a smaller sign.
Commissioner Loeb stated that the bad thing about living next to a shopping center is not how big the sign
is out front on the arterial,but it's the 18-wheeler Dollar General truck rolling thirty feet past your bedroom
window at 5:00 in the morning. Decreasing sign heights does not protect residential areas from commercial
uses. Commissioner Loeb stated the signs are the least of the problem.
Commissioner Kelly stated she understands the desire and reasoning to standardize, however, her
view of"residential in nature" does not imply houses on that particular street. For example, Northwest
Boulevard already is developing commercially, however, it is surrounded by residential neighborhoods and
that makes it "residential in nature". Commissioner Kelly stated it is her desire to protect Northwest
Boulevard from becoming a roadway with huge signs.
Ms. Dougherty responded that through all these years of developing a sign code the"unlimited sign
size" was done away with, therefore, any business out there has been restricted to a forty foot sign which
makes Northwest Boulevard already protected from the huge signs. Ms. Dougherty stated that when staff
asked the ad hoc committee to work on the sign ordinance, the reason given was to eliminate "zoning
shopping". Therefore, instead of having signs based on zoning, the committee based it on the street sizes.
Ms. Dougherty stated that later, staff came to the committee requesting to deregulate some of the arterials.
After going out and viewing the streets the committee agreed with the exception of Northwest Boulevard
and FM 1889.
In response to Commissioner Stone, Ms. Murphy stated that if in the future an arterial street needs
to be a regulated collector with street and sign standards, it is taken care of through an amendment.
In response to Commissioner Skrobarczyk, Ms. Goode-Macon stated that the zoning ordinance is
always evolving, constantly being amended as time changes.
Mr.Gunning stated that at one time there was an untenable situation in the business zones and"1-2"
in that sign allowances were unlimited as to the number of signs, height of signs, and sign areas. Mr.
Gunning pointed out that the change of zoning for a piece of property is a legislative action taken by City
Council. That is what they are empowered to do, whether you call it politics or not. Because our sign
allowances were tied to zoning, we had a number of people zone shopping for more sign allowances. Our
intent was to find a new standard,not to standardize.
Vice-chairman Garza stated the Ad Hoc Committee and the UDC Sign Focus Group did a great job
in putting together the sign ordinance and it provides a lot of protection. However, Vice-chairman Garza
further stated that in those areas that are asking for additional protection and you start to write exceptions to
standards that you are adopting, those exceptions are actually giving the community less protection than
what you are looking to try to get. Vice-chairman Garza stated that if additional protection is needed, then
an overlay would be in order.
Legal Counsel Gary Smith presented a legal opinion on the definition of"sign", stating that it is his
belief that if our definition is aimed at commercial speech only it would put us in a strict scrutiny position
and we need to engage in regulations that protect legitimate, substantial governmental interests that relate to
all communications in a content neutral basis that we regulate on a time, manner and place basis. Mr. Smith
reviewed with the commissioners various definitions from other city's codes. Regulating just commercial
speech puts a different burden on commercial speech than we put on other speech and that makes us subject
to strict scrutiny, making it difficult to defend our ordinance and definition. Mr. Smith stated he would
encourage a broader disjunctive definition.
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Commissioner Loeb stated the problem with the disjunctive is that it makes architecture a sign, as
well as making sculptures and art a sign, because if it attracts attention to a place of business, it fits the
definition.
Commissioner Huerta motioned to approve staffs recommendation of Section 33-1 Sign
Regulations with the revised sign definition from legal counsel and to include the sections of arterial streets
designated as collectors that are currently listed in our zoning ordinance. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Kelly and passed with Commissioner Skrobarczyk and Commissioner Loeb voting against
and Commissioner Nadkarni absent.
Ms. Murphy stated for the record that the Wood River Community Association is in favor of
keeping Northwest Boulevard and FM 1889 on the list of arterials to be regulated as collectors.
VIII. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Ms. Goode-Macon stated the next Planning Commission meeting is scheduled for September 5,
2007, and at that time a presentation will be made for outgoing commissioners Fred Braselton and
Michael Pusley.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn was made at 7:45 p.m. by Commissioner Skrobarczyk and was seconded by
Commissioner Loeb. Motion passed unanimously with Commissioner Nadkarni being absent.
Faryce Goode-Macon Beverly Lang-Priestley
Interim Assistant Director of Recording Secretary
Development Services/Planning
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