HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Planning Commission - 01/20/1993 MINUTES
SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
FLOUR BLUFF ISD AUDITORIUM
JANUARY 20, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Shirley Mims, Chairperson
Lamont Taylor, Vice-Chairman
Robert Canales
Ralph Hall
Lupe Longoria
Alma Meinrath
Ro Wickham
MEMBERS ABSENT: Mike Karm
Jake Sanchez
STAFF PRESENT: W. Thomas Utter, Director of Development
Services
Brandol M. Harvey, AIA, AICP, Director of
Planning & Development
Robert Payne, AICP, Senior City Planner
Mic Raasch, AICP, City Planner
B.K. Farnsworth, Planning Technician
Norbert Hart, Assistant City Attorney
Carl Crull, PE, Director of Engineering
Services
Angel Escobar, PE, Assistant Director of
Engineering Services
David Seiler, PE, City Traffic Engineer
Grace McNett, Capital Budget Officer
Malcolm Matthews, Director of Park and
Recreation
Kelly Elizondo, Director of Community
Development
Herb Canales, Director of Libraries
Barbara Stover, PE, Wastewater Collection
System Superintendent
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Mims called the public hearing to order, welcomed all in
attendance, explained the purpose of the public hearing, described
the procedure to be followed, and introduced City Councilman Dr.
David McNichols.
Councilman McNichols thanked everyone in attendance and encouraged
their participation in the public hearing.
Brandol Harvey, Director of Planning and Development gave a brief
history and background of the existing and proposed area plan as
related to the naval air operations and environmental concerns. He
also gave an overview of the timeframe and process that is followed
to adopt a plan. Mr. Harvey then introduced Robert PastAan NED
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Mr. Robert Payne, oriented those in attendance on the boundaries of
the Area Development Plan. He also pointed out landmarks and
existing land uses, noting that most of the area is vacant. Mr.
Payne summarized the historical, current and projected population
of Flour Bluff . Mr. Payne then reviewed the proposed Flour Bluff
Area Development Plan covering the four major categories of the
Plan: 1) Environment, 2) Land Use, 3) Transportation, and 4)
Public Services.
Chairman Mims recognized and introduced Captain Ken Bixler,
Commanding Officer of the Naval Air Station.
Captain Bixler presented a statement addressing the Air
Installation Compatibility Use Zone (AICUZ) guidelines as related
to naval air operations at NAS and the proposed plan. Captain
Bixler expressed concern with the Plan's proposed density
restrictions of up to 7 residential units per acre in both Accident
Potential Zones I and II. Capt. Bixler emphasized that because of
public safety concerns due to Naval air operations the Navy is
strongly opposed to the Plan' s permitted densities. Capt. Bixler
explained that this proposed density exceeds density limitations
recommended by the Navy for areas within APZ's: AICUZ recommends
no residential development in areas within APZ I and only up to 2
residential units per acre in areas within APZ II.
Captain Bixler stated that in light of the great changes in the
world in the ten years since the Plan was last addressed, Corpus
Christi may wish to place greater weight in 1993 in protecting the
continued viability of the Naval Air Station.
The U.S. Navy, stated Capt. Bixler, urges the City to approve a
development density in the Accident Potential Zones which conforms
to the Navy's recommendations. The City's favorable action in this
manner will provide greater protection for the public safety and
help to protect the future of Naval Air Station Corpus Christi.
Captain Bixler and Commander Jim Biddle, Public Works Officer of
NAS, then responded to several questions from members of the
audience regarding naval air operations at NAS and Waldron Field.
Chairperson Mims stated that the question cards provided to the
audience will be addressed first according to the order of the
agenda schedule: 1) Land Use, 2) Environment, 3) Transportation,
and 4) Public Services. Persons who would like to be recognized
for further public comment will be addressed at that time.
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Land Use
Kelly Mailhes: What impact on rural areas of Roscher and Graham
would the (Oso) parkway have? Is it planned as a bikeway or
roadway?
Mr. Payne responded to questions from Ms. Mailhes and several other
members of the audience that eventually there will be more and more
development in the area. Concurrent to this development, this
proposed parkway, including an 80 foot right-of-way with a two-
lane, low-volume, low-speed, meandering street and a bikeway, would
be provided by that development.
Tasha Hooper: We are located at 1060 and 1070 NAS Drive. We have
a large day care center, business property and private home all on
our property. Could you tell me what we should plan to do if
anything in accordance with Navy AICUZ plan? -- or should we worry
about rezoning?
Mr. Payne responded that since the property is located within an
APZ I area there would be a problem with congregation of people for
this kind of use.
Philip Keen: What is the long term status of Turtle Cove area?
Mr. Payne responded that since the subdivision has recently been
fully developed that the Plan calls for the density of this area
not to change.
NO NAME PROVIDED
Recreational Field - What type of changes are going to be
needed in the future for these areas? Will the city maintain
the new location? Why would the city permit all the
improvements recently made through the YSAP if they were aware
of this? Baseball, Soccer, etc.
Malcolm Matthews, Director of Park and Recreation, responded that
the City is proposing the long-term relocation of the existing
athletic fields to the northeast corner of Waldron Field and
adjacent to Waldron Park. This will allow for more full use of the
existing playing fields and for them to be relocated over a long
and gradual timeframe.
Bill Duncan: On the proposal to open Jamaica-Debra as a relief
parkway street to compliment Laguna Shores Road, is the Texas Parks
& Wildlife Dept. receptive to such a proposal? They own right-of-
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way in the center of the area.
Mr. Payne stated that this would have to be worked out with the
Texas Parks and Wildlife Dept. However, preliminary staff analysis
indicates that this alignment is very feasible.
Mr. Duncan indicated that he owns a cemetery along this proposed
alignment. Is the city proposing to get most of this needed
additional right-of-way from the Flour Bluff ISD?
Mr. Payne stated that the further detailing of the implementation
of this proposed street extension would have to be worked out, but,
at this time, sees no particular problems with the proposed
alignment.
L. J. Simone: What prevents the Flour Bluff area from having a
water park similar to "Splash Town, USA" in San Antonio? When will
Caribbean to Waldron have side walks?
Mr. Payne responded to the first question that it is strictly up to
private development to develop Water parks and the like. He stated
that staff would have to research the proposed status of sidewalks
along Caribbean and get back to Mr. Simone at the next meeting
scheduled January 27, 1992.
Signa Prather: Laguna Shores Road - any plans to raise road and
beautify Laguna Madre? What about the "Bird Sanctuary" in Laguna
Estates - It needs to be accessible with sidewalks, trees planted,
benches, and may be even a small play area. Will sidewalks be
built along Waldron Road? If so, how much of Waldron Road?
Mr. Payne responded that specific improvement plans for Laguna
Shores Road will be worked out in the future as the Plan is
implemented. Concerns about the bird sanctuary would need to be
discussed with the Parks Director.
Mr. Payne responded to several questions from the audience with
regard to the land use element of the proposed Plan.
Willie Lenox: Laguna Shores Road: raising of road - staff needs to
come back with a long range plan for elevating and improvement.
Mr. Payne responded that because of significant construction costs
for the elevation and improvement of Laguna Shores Road this matter
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would have to be addressed by the Engineering Department.
Calvin Bright, 3106 Laguna Shores, stated that he and others have
tried to develop the area zoned industrial in the vicinity of
Chester Street and Skipper Lane just south of NAS. However,
because of the industrial zoning the water mains must be a minimum
of 8 inches diameter. Because the area was originally developed
residentially with small 50 by 150 foot lots and with only 6 inch
mains and laterals installed. These factors in addition to
fragmented ownership has made redevelopment of industrial uses very
expensive. If the City wants this area to redevelop into low
intensity industrial uses, it should provide adequate
infrastructure for those uses.
Rusty Beck, 1725 Graham Road, questioned why the large area along
the proposed Oso Parkway is reflected as multi-family residential
and mobile home development. Mr. Beck expressed concern as to the
high volume of traffic which would be generated from these two
properties and funneled to the proposed parkway.
Mr. Payne stated that subsequent to the 1983 comprehensive rezoning
of the Flour Bluff this area was rezoned after the property owner
initiated a zoning change.
Jim Coulter, 221 Portsmouth, expressed concerns with the proposed
relocation of the youth athletic complex on the east side of
Waldron Field.
Mr. Payne explained that the City is proposing the athletic field
be relocated to the northeast corner of Waldron Field primarily
because the Accident Potential Zones cover most of the athletic
field.
Joe Hensler, 1515 Caribbean Drive, asked whether full water service
would be provided in the area of Caribbean Drive west of Flour
Bluff Drive and how his property was rezoned without his knowledge.
Mr. Payne, stated that both questions would need to be analyzed and
followed-up with staff.
Environment
Mary Thorpe: As a native of Flour Bluff & Professor of Geology at
Del Mar College, I compliment the City Council, Staff & Commission
on it's placement of the environment as Item "1" on the executive
summary. That shows a progressive attitude toward the delicate
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nature of our Flour Bluff.
J. A. Calvin, Jr. : How does this (Plan) affect Laguna Shores
property? What about drainage & bulk heading for low lying land
bordering Laguna Shores near S.P.I.D. ?
Chairperson Mims stated that this question was addressed earlier.
Mr. Calvin, 3544 Topeka, expressed concern with Corps of Engineers'
policies with wetlands.
C.A. Stockman: Green area on Laguna: Would the city like to see a
park there? Ms. Stockman stated that the question had already been
answered.
Beverly L. Held, MD: How will you protect the bird life along
Laguna Shores? Need pull out at end of Lola Johnson to watch water
birds . Piping plover noted on (1) area between Graham & Lola
Johnson and on Held Industrial Tract; (2) Reddish Egret & nursery
for other birds are best observed on areas between Graham & just
south of Lola Johnson. Dr. Held, 145 Mediterranean, stated that
safe access points for birdwatching was needed at several strategic
points along the Laguna Madre shoreline.
Transportation
Judith Reader: Proposed road to replace Laguna Shores appears to
conflict with Headington Oil Pumping Station and tank collection
area. Heavy tank trucks go back and forth frequently to the tank
area. Problem? Who would use the road from Purdue to Graham to
Laguna Shores? Seems that would be extensive work and expense for
little need (people going to the beach? )
Mr. Payne responded that the proposed alignment of the Debra
extension is general in concept. Specific alignment will be
detailed at the time of construction design.
Mark McHugh: Since the S.P.I.D. improvement planners did not allow
for easy access to the ramp going to NAS from Flour Bluff, a
parkway along the Oso would likely see a lot of traffic between
Graham Road and S.P.I .D. from people going to work at NAS/CCAD who
want to make use of the freeway access to the base. Would
extending Compton Road to the west to meet up with S.P. I.D. at the
Oso bridge alleviate this as well as improve access to the area
slated for commercial use immediately South of S.P.I.D. west of
Flour Bluff Drive?
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Mr. Angel Escobar, Assistant Director of Engineering Services,
stated that staff had met with Mr. McHugh during the break and
these questions had been addressed.
Mr. Beck expressed concern with future traffic using the proposed
Oso Parkway to gain access to the eastbound on-ramp to SPID just
west of the Flour Bluff interchange.
Mr. Payne indicated that staff will take another look at the
proposed Oso Parkway and possible impacts of future development on
the Parkway.
James Coulter: Why will Debra/Jamaica Streets not be extended
through to Yorktown?
Mr. Payne stated that it is not feasible to extend Jamaica across
the nature preserve south of Mediterranean.
R. L. Fordtram MD: What are city's long term plan of Yorktown Road
- it needs to be widened and "Mud Bridge" widened to get access in
and out of Flour Bluff and to proposed parkways.
David Seiler, City Traffic Engineer, stated that Yorktown Blvd. is
not currently included in the City's capital improvement program.
It is very likely to be added in the next CIP. Yorktown would be
a critical part of a proposed outer arterial belt including Waldron
Road, Yorktown Blvd. , Saratoga Blvd. , and extended to Interstate
37.
NO NAME PROVIDED: Has the land been acquired for the extension of
Roscher Road to S.P. I.D. and exactly where will the pathway or road
be located?
Mr. Payne stated that the property has not been acquired. It would
be acquired as development occurs in the area as a part of the
subdivision process.
Judy Smith: Please define "Parkway" and "Bikeway" as they relate
to proposed changes on Laguna Shores Road.
Mr. Payne explained that a parkway has 80 feet of right-of-way, has
two lanes of traffic, and has on the water side a bikeway.
Terry Exley: Putting sidewalks on Flour Bluff Drive, widening
Glenoak and extend sidewalks to Flour Bluff Drive. Because of the
increasing traffic and student population and route of our High
School track team; I find this very necessary.
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Mr. Seiler stated that Glenoak is not included in the current CIP,
however, the proposed Area Development Plan is indicated as a high
priority in the next CIP. Sidewalks would be included in those
future improvements or provided as part of a sidewalk improvement
program.
Mrs. Katherine Conoly stated that rather than proposing the Oso
Parkway, the City should provide basic services such as sidewalks,
sewers, streets, and so forth to the people who are asking for
those services.
Lawry Snyder: Would like to comment about collector and arterial
streets. Mr. Snyder, 3213 Azores, stated that Mediterranean Drive
should be extended to Waldron Road.
Chairperson Mims responded that the Commission will be addressing
this issue with the review of the Plan.
John Doggett, 3219 Jamaica and a board member of the Tropic Isles
Association, expressed concern with the proposal to extend Debra
Lane northward. This would place more unnecessary traffic on
Jamaica Street. Mr. Doggett also stated that Mediterranean Drive
should be extended to Waldron Road to relieve some of the traffic
on Jamaica.
Mr. Payne indicated that the proposed Debra extension and Jamaica
collector would contain only two lanes of traffic.
Bob Fortran, 1818 Caribbean, stated that the problem with Flour
Bluff is that there is not enough north-south streets. Roscher
Road needs to be extended to Glenoak and both paved. Glenoak
should then be fully improved all the way to Waldron Road, and
Flour Bluff Road needs to be fully improved.
David Conoly, 1930 Glenoak, expressed opposition to the proposed
Oso Parkway and suggested that Flour Bluff Drive be widened and
improved. The Oso Parkway has never been proposed to be on the
Flour Bluff side of the Oso and it should be removed from the Plan.
Mr. Payne responded that the record should be set straight that the
Parkway will not be paid by the City but instead provided as future
development occurs through the platting process.
Public Services
Jack Ratkovic: Parking facilities very bad - parking at present
(1) public utilities, library, swimming pool, picnic area-Community
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Center - Senior Citizen Building needs additional parking- Top
Priority
Mr. Utter, Director of Development Services, stated that staff is
currently pursuing the acquisition of additional land for expanded
parking adjacent to the Community Center.
James Coulter: All the fields are well developed. What is needed
is road repavement, bathrooms, and a new equipment/snack stand.
Why not use the city money to develop the existing field areas,
rather than reinventing the wheel.
Mr. Matthews, Director of Park and Recreation, stated that the
primary problem is that the athletic fields are located within the
Accident Potential Zones. Since the City is not a party to the
existing fields and the League is responsible for all improvements
and liabilities . If the fields were to be relocated the City may
be able to propose in the next bond program this project,
therefore, the City could be able to build the new facilities.
Virginia B. Fox: There are not sufficient fire hydrants in Tropic
Isles area. Have been told that water lines are not adequate to
support them. But lines keep breaking and need replacing. Five
times in one year on Nassau Street. Mrs. Fox, 3205 Nassau, stated
that the only fire hydrant on Nassau Street is on Laguna Shores
Road.
Mr. Utter stated that staff will have a response at the meeting on
January 27 .
Berneice Lambert: What would be the cost of the payment plan and
the sewer down Waldron? Down east side - improvements platting.
Mr. Escobar stated that the improvements to Waldron Road will
include a sewer line for service to adjacent properties.
Jo O'Hara: Will public services include fire hydrants for Nassau
Street?
Chairperson Mims stated that this question will be addressed by
staff at the next meeting on January 27 .
John Meadows: ( 1) Reference the goals/objectives for 1982 Plan:
How many goals/objectives were or were not completed? (2)
Reference these goals/objectives for 1993 plan: How many do you
anticipate (realistically) that will be completed within 10
years/20 years?
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Mr. Payne requested that Mr. Meadows come to the Planning
Department so that Mr. Meadow's request can be properly addressed.
An unidentified man from the audience suggested that the property
along the shoreline of the Laguna Madre east of Tropic Isles be
purchased for parkland.
Walt Garth stated he is opposed to the proposed Parkway, and said
Flour Bluff is a truly unique area.
An unidentified woman from the audience expressed concern with the
extension of Debra and the possible problems with wetlands in the
area.
Mr. Payne responded that staff has taken great efforts to avoid
known wetlands with the proposed alignment.
Mr. Utter explained the significant problems with Laguna Shores
Road as it exists and as it might be elevated and expanded. The
proposed extension of Debra is specifically intended to serve as an
alternative route to Laguna Shores Road since it is not feasible to
be widened.
Dr. Held complimented staff on Policy Statement A.7 regarding the
need to preserve native brush and grass on properties.
Mary Thorpe expressed concern with residents of Flour Bluff who
don't have City water service and have septic systems -- these
health concerns are just as important as traffic. Mrs. Thorpe
inquired as to why the properties along Laguna Shores are indicated
as commercial and multi-family residential uses.
Mr. Payne stated that these properties are currently zoned as
indicated on the Plan, and that staff is not recommending any down
zoning of property.
An unidentified man from the audience questioned how the City could
place water lines along Laguna Shores Road in the last several
years and not have any difficulties with the wetlands and why to
raise and widen the road is such a problem.
Chairperson Mims stated that the staff and Commission will take all
the comments which were provided at the hearing under advisement.
Another meeting will be held on January 27, 1993 at 6:30 pm at the
Auditorium for additional comment and follow-up by staff . Ms. Mims
thanked everyone for attending the meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m..m
egated
Bra �NaP O Roberti Payne v / 1..,
Director of Planning Senior City Planner
Executive Secretary to Comprehensive Planning
Planning Commission
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