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ANIMAL CONTROL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Nueces County Public Health District
Education Room, 2626 Holly Rd
Minutes of November 17th 2005
Members Present: Susan Theim, Kendall Keyes, Dr John Buckley, Dr William Watson,
Sharon Massad, Paul Buckley and Pam Rhyner
Members Absent: No absences
Staff Present: Cherrie Stunz
Staff Absent: Annette Rodriguez
Guests: Chris Ramirez
1. Call to Order: Susan Theim, Chairperson, 12:35pm
2. Approval of November 17th, 2005
Ms. Theim amended the minutes under New Business to include "Dr. Buckley had excused himself
from the discussion concerning Ms. Martinez because Mrs. Buckley was in the process of
fostering an animal through Ms. Martinez".
Dr. Watson made a motion to approve the minutes with an amendment, Dr. Buckley 2nd the motion and
all were in favor; motion passed.
Approval of Absences
Dr. Buckley made a motion to approve the absence of Paul Reynolds. Ms. Keyes 2nd the motion and all
were in favor; motion passed.
3. Zoonosis Report
The Zoonosis Report for September and October was attached for review. Ms. Stunz informed the
committee that there had been 3 bats that tested positive for rabies in Nueces County this year. In the
October report it touched on the"Bird Flu"epidemic which has not yet been an issue in the United
States. Ms. Stunz said the media had inquired to know if we were doing any testing. Since TDH had not
requested for us to do so, Ms. Stunt said we weren't.
Dr, Buckley pointed out that a person having an influenza shot would get marginal protection against the
Bird Flu, however there was no vaccination for birds.
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Managers' Report
The Opossum update from Ms. Stunz stated that a January date was anticipated to start pick ups. No
specific commitments to specific dates, due to parts being awaited for the truck because the vehicle, a
Ford F250 4-wheel drive with extended bumper to enable attachment of traps to it, requires special
fittings e.g. a special chassis. The vehicle might be ready by the end of December with staff already
trained and ready to go.
Mr. Reynolds wanted to know why we were going to be picking up opossums. Ms. Rhyner replied that
City Council voted for it when enough citizens voiced their opinion that they wanted it.
Field Report
Mr. Hernandez reported the success of the Rabies Clinic along with the Corpus Christi Kennel Club.
Response from the public was poor because numbers were not as high as in the past possibly due to a
lack of publicity.
ACS now has a full field staff. He was very pleased with the newest officers. A new"patch" also comes
with new uniforms for the staff.
Dr. Watson said timing could be bad for the Rabies Clinics because of the holiday season. The clinics
appeal to the lower and fixed income group who will not be able to afford it at this time of year. Ms.
Stunt reported that the facility was very close to meeting its proposed 1,000 Adoptions and transfers,
presently at between 800-825.
Ms. Massad inquired about the Sisson's trial. Mr. Hernandez said the judge found grounds for cruelty and
awarded ACS all of the animals. The animals were transferred to different Rescue groups. Most of the
animals were small with less than 25% being purebred. A third were breeders, and some of them were
pregnant.
In December 2004 the City gave Ms. Sisson a special zoning ordinance permit that allowed her to have
60 animals in total, however she got rid of some of the animals before ACS arrived. At the time of the
seizure she had 119. Ms. Keyes wanted to know how many animals she was now allowed to keep and
wondered why her license was not revoked. Ms. Stunz said the two issues were different, but Ms.
Sisson may or may not be able to keep animals in the future. Ms. Keyes wanted to know the cost of the
case to the City and whether Ms. Sisson was going to be made to pay for such costs. Mr. Stunz promised
to look into that because Ms. Sisson should indeed reimburse the City. Mr. Hernandez thought the
exercise did cost more than $3,000. Mr. Reynolds said a lien could be placed on Ms. Sisson's property if
it was found out that she had to pay and didn't.
Ms. Massad wanted to know what happened with C-Care. Ms. Stunz replied that information has been
requested on the three remaining dogs that C-Care has and so far, we were in a stand-by mode because
C-Care agreed to shut down its facility because they no longer wanted to do rescue.
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S. Old Business
Ms. Theim updated the committee in regards to the Mission Statement letter which she said she wanted
to see in place in the New Year— ready and sent to the Vets. Mr. Reynolds agreed to do a cover letter for
this.
Regarding opossum pick up, Ms. Stunz responded to Ms. Thiem and Keyes that $73,000 had been
allocated. Ms. Theim wanted a three-month analysis presented to the committee for comparison with
past numbers. Ms. Massad wanted to know what happened after the opossums are picked up. Ms. Stunz
said they were euthanized. Mr. Reynolds wanted to know if opossums have a higher rate of flea
problems. Ms. Stunz said there was no data to back this suggestion. Dr. Bukley said all fur bearing
animals had to be looked at for that kind of data to reveal which animal had the higher rate of
infestation.
Mr. Reynolds believed it was unethical to trap an opossum and have it euthanized. Ms. Stunz replied that
the Opossum were considered as nuisance pet. Dr. Buckley said a study done 7 years ago, said they
were looking at a titer for antibodies for murine typhus and opossums. It was concluded that opossums
were carrying typhus which happens to be endemic in this area and it is the flea that carries the typhus.
Ms. Rodriguez will be informing us of the number of cases of murine typhus last year. Opossums do not
carry rabies because of their high body temperature, but people believe they have rabies because they
foam at the mouth, and spit and hiss. They mostly eat fruits and cat food and do not bite except when
cornered.
The Councils decision to pick up the opossums is because it is a health issue, nothing to do with it being
a nuisance. When citizens took information on opossums to City Council, said Ms. Theim, it was
information collected and handed to Council members in private and no proposal to counteract that
information was given a chance. Ms. Stunz said ACS's opinion was never asked as well, nor was Dr.
Bergin's - the local Health Authority for medical expertise.
Mr. Reynolds inquired if ACS will be going out on random opossum's pick-ups or just when called. Ms.
Stunz replied that ACS will do this as it did before - offer the service Monday thru Friday, 8-5 with one
personnel picking them up. That employee would only be able to pick up around 30 opossums a day.
There will be a limit on the service and calls for pick up must be in no later than 12 noon.
ACS will not be providing traps. ACS will be setting up a program like the NIP program. Wherever we
believe there is a cat problem we go out there and spend time helping to remove the problem. For the
pick up, a part-time person will be going out with our own traps and will work in a community effort to
trap. The employee will also be providing education and focusing on the areas where we have difficult
problems.
Mr. Reynolds felt a letter should be drafted to Council asking why the committee was not informed of the
Opossum pick up. Ms. Stunz said a discussion was held concerning the matter and it went to Council
with little time for her to prepare. ACS is okay with money being given to do the work, but it would have
been better to have an opportunity to say what was felt to be more important from the community
perspective. Dr. Buckley made a motion for Mr. Reynolds to draft the letter to the City Council
concerning the Opossum issue. Ms. Keyes 2nd the motion.
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Ms. Theim wanted to know of additional comments to the motion if any. Ms. Massad replied to this
saying, that she felt the committee was only advisory and it may not be its job to instruct council. Dr.
Buckley however said that the Advisory Committee was specifically for Animal Care matters and therefore
if there was an animal matter that came before City Council then the committee should be concerned.
Dr. Watson also pointed out that it should have also come as a Public Health matter.
Ms. Theim wanted the matter tabled at the next meeting with the draft letter from Mr. Reynolds for
review. She said she agreed with Ms. Massad, but felt also that as Dr. Buckley pointed out, the
committee was a liaison from the citizens of the City to City Council. In that manner, it had a right to ask
why the committee was not informed. She said she would feel more comfortable if there was data. The
letter will be one of concern to inform when the committee intends to present Council with valid data,
possibly 6 months.
Ms. Stunz felt it was best to look at what was sent to council and then review it. The committee can look
at it in regards to budgetary cuts that may be needed. Dr. Buckley added that as Ms. Stunt pointed,
out this covers 2 areas - an animal perspective - which is what the committee's orientation is and also a
public health concern - which the Public Health Advisory Committee, could be involved in.
Ms. Theim recommended that the committee approach City Council cautiously, to let them know of the
data collection. Ms. Stunt said an interesting thing that came out of the situation was ACS'actual need
to keep the truck and extra personnel. Mr. Reynolds and Dr. Buckley felt to involve the Public Health
Advisory Committee. There might be a letter signed by two committees, this will carry more weight at
City Council.
Dr. Buckley makes a motion for Mr. Reynolds to draft a letter to the City Council concerning the Opossum
issue. Ms. Keyes 2nd the motion. Ms. Massad felt that the committee can do something like this and
the data will show that the money could be better used.
6. New Business
Ms. Theim pointed out that she would like to see a sub-committee formed to address certain issues, one
of them being emergency planning. A small memo could be drafted and distributed out to the Vets and
made available here at ACS for the citizens of Corpus Christi making them aware of what ACS does and
what citizens can do legally. There are ordinances they could follow and they can come in to resolve a
situation. This memo could be done quarterly as another way to educate the public. It could be done
through the Vets, Rabies Clinics and here at ACS. Ms. Theim also added that as a committee help could
be extended to arrange for any PSA's about ACS. Many people do not know the difference between ACS
and the Humane Society.
Ms. Theim added that Ms. Keyes had concerns with some ordinances. We are not able to approach the
City Council about the ordinances at this time. Ms. Keyes would like to see a sub-committee established
to look at the ordinances in depth and see which ones need to be re-addressed. Ms. Theim also added
that members were to think about this and decide where they wanted to serve on this. In December, the
committee will have a sub-committee to bring back information to the main committee. Dr. Buckley said
what he would like to see is the Dangerous Animal Ordinance re-drafted. Ms. Theim said the committee
can confer with Ms. Stunz on what she would like to see done. Ms. Theim inquired to know if Ms.
Hoffman is still doing anything for ACS. Ms. Stunz replied that Ms. Hoffman had helped get ACS on with
Grande Communications and Time Warner.
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Mr. Reynolds informed the Committee of 2 situations where he advised people who were trying to sell
puppies in parking lots. Mr. Reynolds stopped and said who he was, making them aware of the illegality
of selling animals by the roadside. The citizen asked for identification that showed who Mr. Reynolds
was. He told the committee that he had been a member prior at a board that had ID Cards. He asked
the committee if members could have an ID card. Ms. Rhyner pointed out that it would be good to have
a copy of the ordinance to be able to show people who are selling and are not aware of the laws. For
example, said Dr. Watson citizens from San Antonio that come down to buy a dog and meet in a parking
lot because they cannot find a home for an animal, need to know the laws here. Ms. Stunz had another
example of a situation near Lubbock where someone brought their dogs for sale on the side of the road.
When they found out that one of the puppies had rabies, no one knew how to contact the buyers to let
them know that puppy had been discovered to have rabies.
A citizen told Ms. Massad of an incident at Petsmart where a dog in a kennel did not have enough room
to stand in. Ms. Massad asked if ACS checked on such things and what the rules were in the matter. Ms.
Stunz added that they should have something larger and we will check with Petsmart on this situation.
7. Public Comments
Ms. Chris Ramirez introduced herself as first-time visitor and an employee of C-Care. Ms. Ramirez
reported that she wasn't sure what organization had the dog in too small of a kennel but it was not one
of C-Care's.
S. Adjournment
Ms. Massad made a motion to adjourn, Paul Reynolds 2nd the motion. All were in favor, motion passed.
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