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Call to Order/Introductions/Roll Call/ Absences:
A. Called to order by the Chair, Ms. Crystal Lyons.
B. Roll Call taken at 3:40 PM:
1. Absent Committee Members-Vice-Chair, Mr. Robert Flores due to a conflict
at work.
2. Absent City Staff without a designee - Mr. Art Sosa, due to work.
3. Other Attendees:
a. Judy Telge of Accessibility Communities Inc.to give public comments.
b. Billy Delgado of the City's Park and Recreation Department to
observe.
C. Excused Absences:
1. Mary Saenz- Motion by Mr. Soza to excuse the absence of Ms. Saenz due
to jury duty. Seconded by Ms. Lyons. No further discussion and this Motion
passed by Committee vote.
2. Glenn Ray Tomo - Mr. Torno did not request to excuse his absence last
month.
II. Approval of Minutes:
Motion to approve the Regular Meeting Minutes of January 7, 2004 was made by
Mr. Soza and seconded by Mr. Sayles. No further discussion. These minutes were
accepted by Committee vote.
III. Presentations/Public Comments:
A. Presentation Information -The scheduled presentation on the City convention
center's multipurpose arena that is under construction was postponed until the
arrival of Mr. Marc Solis. As the new General Manager of the CC Arena, Mr.
Solis had accepted the Committee's invitation in November 2003 to speak at the
Committee's February 2004 meeting. [Mr. Solis did not arrive later and was
unable to attend today's meeting.]
B. Presentation Information—A request was made by the Chair to invite Ms. Chris
DesRosier to make a presentation on a grant for crime victims. Ms. DesRosier
is Program Director at the Crime Victims Center in Corpus Christi, Texas.
C. Committee Comment - Mr. Soza made an announcement regarding "Family
Forward" in which he will later provide more information to the Committee.
D. Public Comment— Ms. Judy Telge of Accessibility Communities Inc. asked for
the Committee's consideration of requesting that the Governor's Committee for
Persons with Disabilities to take a stand in passing a resolution against the
Texas Attorney General (AG)Abbott's threat on the Americans with Disabilities
Act(ADA). Ms. Telge made reference to the U.S. Supreme Court case on ADA
Title II, Lane v. Tennessee, as she expressed concerns of the Texas AG was
trying to put State rights over individual rights. Ms. Telge also provided a
handout of a Public Statement of Support for the ADA by the Austin Mayor's
Committee for Persons with Disabilities. Ms.Telge also mentioned that petitions
were also in circulation. General discussion ensued.
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Public Comments Discussion-Continued
Mr. Soza made a Motion and seconded by Ms. Fallwell-Stover to place on the
March 2004 agenda for consideration,possible resolution of support to submit to
the Commissioner on the Governor's Committee for Persons with Disabilities.
There was general discussion of the timing of doing such resolution and in
conjunction with the Barbara Jordan Awards in April 2004, when the
Commissioners will be in Corpus Christi. Mr. Torno commented on wanting to
hear both sides of this issue and why the Attorney
General's Office is taking this on, before the CFPWD makes a decision to
submit a resolution. At Ms. Fallwell-Stover's request, Ms.Telge briefly spoke on
the incident of inaccessibility at a courthouse in Tennessee in which a person
with a disability believes that he was denied due process. The Chair remarked
that the Committee would need to get balanced information. With no further
discussion on this issue, the Chair moved on to Item V-(B) on the agenda
regarding the proposed non-discrimination ordinance with Mr. Jay Reining, 1st
Assistant City Attorney, in attendance on behalf of the City Attorney's Office.
V. Old Business:
B. Non-Discrimination Ordinance-Mr. Reining began the discussion by addressing
the last two areas of concern on the latest draft version, in light of the recently
emailed explanation of the City Staffs position per the City Attorney's Office.
1. Affects on Other Governmental Entities (Section 24-92):
a. Placement of the proposed language of Section 24-92 to be a stand
alone provision as it would apply to the whole Article, not a particular
section, and that it should be placed up front of the proposed
document since it is an exception.
b. On the matter of an added disclaimer to the proposed Section 24-92,
Mr. Reining reminded the Committee that the City has no jurisdiction
on other public entities.
2. Prohibited Practices:
Discussion ensured about how to incorporate the existing Federal ADA
guidelines (35.150) of "General Prohibited Practices" into the proposed
ordinance, as a mirror of 35.150 instead of changing to include these
prohibited practices as an exhibit to the ordinance. Mr. Reining addressed
Committee questions regarding the possibility of changes as the Federal
level necessitating quotations around excepts of the ADA; citing or
referencing that this section of the ordinance is per the Department of Justice
by incorporating, instead of the City adoption; avoidance of possible, or
interpretation of, having different standards between the Federal and Local
government upon any future changes at the Federal level and City Staff
having to keep up and amending the ordinance for any such future Federal
changes.
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Old Business Discussion on Non-Discrimination Ordinance-Continued
During ensued discussions, Members expressed disappointment in:
receiving inconsistent information and Legal interpretations; and the latest
revisions to the ordinance were not as discussed and agreed upon during the
prior Special Meeting of the Committee and City Staff on January 26, 2003.
Of the two remaining ordinance items, it was understood that Section 24-92
regarding other governmental entities with the addition of a new subpart in
24-101 required Legal clearance. However, the Committee and Staff had
previously come to terms with the reinstatement of the general prohibited
practices {35.130}.
Due to lack of agreement at this point, the Committee rescinded the Motions
made at the Special Meeting on 1/26/04 to move forward the latest draft of
the ordinance to present to the City Council at its upcoming 2/10/04 meeting
for the consideration of the proposed ordinance's Second, and final,
Reading. The Chair made a Motion to rescind all of the action taken by
quorum of the Committee at its 1/26/04 Special Meeting, seconded by Ms.
Fallwell-Stover. Discussion ensued with Mr. Soza's question if in principle
can there be agreement. The Chair asked if the action of rescinding could
be done first. A vote was taken and the Motion passed.
After referring back to the July 2003 draft ordinance document to go before
the City Council for a Second Reading, the Chair asked Mr. Ramos, Human
Relations Director, for suggestions. Mr. Ramos suggested not going back to
the July 2003 document because so much progress had been made since
that version. The Chair asked Mr. Reining about showing the City Council
the differences from the July 2003 document to the present, in which Mr.
Reining responded in the affirmative.
Committee Members discussed which draft version (1/26/04, 1/07/04) to
utilize, make changes for its recommended draft for the upcoming City
Council's Second Reading.
Mr. Torno gave remarks of moving forward toward the goal of having a non-
discrimination ordinance locally and to use for education like the Committee
had desired. In that, either draft version should accomplish the overall goal
in being better than were the ordinance started. He also cautioned that
although improved, this ordinance would not be pleasing to everyone in the
community.
Discussion later resumed regarding: how to incorporate the prohibited
practices, with possibly no reference to DOJ; leave in Section 24-92 and
ending at the word "State" — no disclaimer; and delete Sec. 9 that refers to
prohibited practices as an exhibit to the proposed ordinance.
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Old Business Discussion on Non-Discrimination Ordinance-Continued
Mr. Sayles also gave remarks of moving forward and that he trusted the
advice of City Staff on these two remaining ordinance issues. More
discussion ensued about how to achieve a "win: situation by reaching
agreement versus continuing with difference could result in nothing.
Mr. Reining suggested to resolve the last remaining issue of the general
prohibited practices: (1) adding the general prohibited practices as its own
provision within the proposed ordinance; (2) instead of referencing that the
City would comply with DOJ's standards in 35.150, this language could be
changed to indicate that the City adopts [not just will comply] with 35.150.
Motion was made to accept Mr. Reining's suggested changes, with a
Second by Mr. Sayles. Discussion ensured in which Mr. Reining clarified
that the word"adopt"means that those general prohibited practices in 35.150
would be the City's standards. With no further discussion, the Chair, Ms.
Lyons, asked for the vote by Committee Members' show of hands. The vote
was taken and the Motion passed with 6 Members in favor yet Ms. Lyons
and Ms. Fallwell-Stover opposed.
Next, Ms. Padilla made the Motion to agree on the language of Section 24-
92 as is and keeping subpart (b) in Section 24-101, with a Second by Mr.
Soza. There was no further discussion,the vote taken. This Motion passed
by sign of Aye and had no Nay-opposition.
Discussion commenced on more housekeeping type items for the proposed
ordinance.
[During which, Ms. Fallwell-Stover departed at approximately 5:40 PM]
There were five housekeeping items presented to Legal:
1. Drop (e) and (f) from Section 24-93.
2. Update numbering of Sections, 24-100 should be 24-101 or 102.
3. Delete (e) of Section 24-90.
4. Check the word use of the word "recipient"within (d) of the definition
of "Disability" to make sure that this is the right word in the context
and of which section of the ADA.
5. Check to make sure that there is not a conflict between the new
Section 24-4(9)'s use of "unreasonably withheld" 4th line on page 3
and what is on the books already in Section 24-22 under prohibited
practices on page 5.
Regarding the Second Reading and Presentation to the City Council, Mr.
Ramos reminded Mr. Reining that the Committee had voted on the document
it recommended to present to the City Council on the proposed ordinance's
First Reading, so he suggested doing the same for the Second Reading as
the document has now changed. After some guidance from Mr. Reining on
verbiage for such Motion, Ms. Lyons asked the Committee Members who
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would be willing to make such Motion.
Old Business Discussion on Non-Discrimination Ordinance-Continued
Mr. Sayles made the Motion to recommend to the City Council an amended
document by substituting the July 2003 First Reading document with the
document revised today. Mr. Soza seconded this Motion. The vote was
taken and passed by the Committee by majority vote of five in favor and one
opposed vote by Ms. Lyons.
Due to the late hour of the meeting, Ms. Padilla made the Motion to table the rest
of the agenda. Mr. Sayles seconded. Motion passed.
Mr. Soza made an announcement for"Family Forward" on 2/24/04.
With nothing further, Ms. Padilla made the Motion to adjourn the meeting, with a
second by Mr. Sayles. The Meeting adjourned at approximately 5:44 PM.