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Minutes of the Electrical Advisory Board
Special Meeting NOV 192009
Thursday,December 11,2008,at 1 p.m. CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE
Fire Department Training Room
3rd Floor,Frost Bank Building
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order 1:20 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Board members present Lee Montgomery, Tino Vasquez, Michael Riley, Jared Merdes, and
David Schury.
City staff present: David Lewis, Rose lrigoyen. Late arrivals:Jay Reining and Doug Maples
III. Approval of Special Meeting Minutes
Mr. Riley motioned to approve the Minutes of the November 20, 2008 meeting. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Merdes.
Motion carried 5-0.
Mr. Merdes motioned to approve the minutes of the December 4, 2008, with noted changes,
seconded by Mr. Vasquez.
Motion carried 5-0.
IV. Review,Discuss and Make Recommendations for Board Membership; Section(14-225B)(2B)
A. Home Builder
There was a brief discussion on the two biographies that the board has received for the open
position. Board members say they will make contact with candidate(s) who have expressed
interest in serving.
V. Review,Discuss,and Take Action on Adoption of the 2008 National Electrical Code with Local
Amendments
A. Chapter 1: General
B. Chapter 2: Wiring and Protection
C. Chapter 3: Wiring Methods and Materials
D. Chapter 4: Equipment for General Use
E. Chapter 5: Special Occupancies
F. Chapter 6: Special Equipment
G. Chapter 7: Special Conditions
H. Chapter 8: Communications Systems
I. Chapter 9: Tables] and 4
Mr. Montgomery asked Mr. Lewis if there are any recommendations that the board would need to
consider to amend the 2008 National Electric Code. Mr. Lewis confirmed that there are no
recommendations at this time.
Mr. Riley inquired about possible changes in the future if the board learned about something that
needed to be changed Mr. Reining informed that the ordinance can be amended at any time, and
he gave the example of the change to ordinance on the electrical re-outs. Mr. Reining further
stated that the City does not like to make changes during the year because people get used to the
ordinance as it is adopted SCANNED
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VI. General Discussion of the Administrative Chapter 14 of the Technical Construction Codes
A. Identify 14-216b: Electrical;Minor repairs and Alterations
Mr. Reining provided a detailed overview of the Administrative Provision in Chapter 14.
Board members and Mr. Reining engaged in a discussion regarding minor repairs and
alterations.
Mr. Reining indicated that there are situations described by the State of Texas which require
licenses. He informed that such situations need to be identified Mr. Montgomery asked who
would be responsible for checking this. Mr. Reining asked Mr. Lewis or one of the masters to
check into this.
Mr. Reining went onto highlight that a provision within notes that a permit nor a license are not
necessary unless it is specfcally noted Mr. Reining reiterated that the situations in which the
state requires a license needs to be noted here.
Mr. Vasquez voiced that all repairs that need to be performed by a licensed electrician should be
identified and noted in thatmanner in the best interest of homeowners.
Board members and Mr. Reining indicated that a list of repairs which can be performed by the
homeowner can be identified in this section as well.
VII. Review,Discuss and Take Action on Adoption of Section 14-225(a)Licensing: Electricians
Mr. Mercies indicated that this item was kept on the agenda to continue general discussion on
licensing of electricians. Mr. Reining indicated that the board had decided to retain most of this
section but that he needed to take a look at the contractors and master apprentices. Mr. Merdes
informed he wanted to make clarification on how the state is unclear about how it defines
business. The board engaged in discussion of this topic, but no recommendations or actions were
made.
VIII. Building Official Report
B. Department Update
C. Staffing Issues
Mr. Lewis informed the board that Mr. Maples is actively involved in other meetings, some of
which include boards, with the goal of updating codes and code amendments. Mr. Lewis
provided an update on staffing noting the services being provided by a contracting agency. Mr.
Montgomery asked if the department has an electrical inspector position open Mr. Lewis
confirmed but also informed that the department is not actively recruiting to fill it at this point.
He added that other contracted inspectors are assisting in the area of building and that the
mechanical group is staff
Mr. Maples joined the board members and staff
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Mr. Montgomery inquired of Mr. Maples about a previous inquiry he had made on whether the
City had already adopted the International Existing Building Code. Mr. Maples answered that
the code has not been adopted
He apprised the board that plan checklists have been created. He shared that the commercial
checklist is a comprehensive one, but that it only deals with buildings. He informed that the
Single family plan review checklist is done and includes mechanical, plumbing and electrical.
Mr. Maples informed that he met with home builders and this is where the checklist developed
from. He informed that he shared with the home builders that Building Services is contemplating
in requiring mechanical,plumbing, and electrical plans, but said he faced a little opposition. He
added that at the minimum, Building Services would require plans for gas. Mr. Maples also
informed that as time permits, the he and staff will be creating checklists for commercial building
pipes, which will include specific plan checks for mechanical, plumbing, and electrical. He
informed that once this checklist has been created this board will have the opportunity to review
it and provide input, specifically on the electrical portion of it. Mr. Maples informed that these
checklists will not be mandatory, but will be a tool for the customers to help understand what it is
the City staff will be looking at.
On staffing Mr. Maples informed that Building Services is still understaffed and that there
continues to be a search for an electrical inspector and building inspectors.
Mr. Merdes inquired about the distribution of the checklist. Mr. Maples informed that the
checklist will be posted to the Development Services web-site and copies will also be available at
the Development Services location
Mr.Maples informed the Comprehensive Planning will be updating an ordinance regarding wind
generators. He admonished board members to please get involved
IX. Identify items to be placed on next agenda
Recommendations for next agenda: Tracking called-in inspections;2008 National Electrical
Code;Licensed Electricians; Fixture/circuit counts and charge variations
X. Public Comments
Board members may not deliberate or make a decision on any matter presented at this time. The
Open Meetings Act limits Board response to only two options: 1)a statement of specific factual
information given in response to an inquiry;or 2)a recitation of existing policy in response to the
inquiry. Any deliberation of or decision about the subject shall be limited to a proposal to place
the subject on the agenda for a subsequent meeting.
No one addressed the board during open forum.
XI. Adjourn
Mr. Vasquez made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Riley. Board members concurred
unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 3:25 p.m
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Presiding Officer