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LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER
JANUARY 27, 2000
MEMBERS PRESENT: Ms. Deborah Douglas, Chairman
Mr. Alan Belcher
Ms. Betsy Chapman
Mr. Michael Cleary
Ms. Lisa Garza
Ms. Grandis Lenken
Mr. Mark Luddeke
Mr. Kevin Maraist
Mr. Elmon Phillips
MEMBERS ABSENT: Ms. Sharon Brower (Excused)
Mr. Terry Orf (Excused)
Ms. Elizabeth Rentz (Excused)
Mr. Jerry Wagoner (Excused)
STAFF PRESENT: Mr. Michael Gunning, Director of Planning
Ms. Faryce Goode-Macon, City Planner
Mr. Mike Gordon, Assistant Director of Park & Recreation
Ms. Pamela Gooby, Park & Recreation
Ms. Linda Williams, Recording Secretary
Ms. Deborah Douglas, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 4:35 p.m.
The roll was called and a quorum was declared.
ACTION ITEMS:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 18. 1999 MEETING: The minutes for the
November 18, 1999 meeting were approved as distributed.
OLD BAYVIEW CEMETERY PROGRAM INCLUDING FLAGPOLE AND TREE PLANTING
INSTALLATION: Ms. Faryce Goode-Macon, Staff Liaison, stated that Mr. Mike
Gordon, Assistant Director of Park and Recreation, and Ms. Rosie Gonzalez
met with the Master Review Committee on Thursday, January 20, 2000 in
the Planning Department conference room. The purpose of the meeting
was to review the proposed plans on installation of several flagpoles and
planting of eight Live Oak trees in the Bayview Cemetery. Ms. Macon
continued that Mr. Gordon is attending today's meeting to do a short
presentation on the proposed project. At this point in the meeting, the
floor was turned over to Mr. Gordon. Mr. Gordon stated that Park and
Recreation staff has been working with The Spanish American Genealogical
Association and Descendants of Mexican War Veterans on a project for the
Bayview Cemetery. Ms. Rosie Gonzalez, representative of the organization,
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was introduced to the commission. Mr. Gordon continued that Ms.
Gonzalez contacted staff regarding the project in wanting to raise the level
of awareness of not only the Bayview Cemetery, but also some of the
historical significance that the cemetery represents. Mr. Gordon continued
that the project was very simple - it Included installation of several
flagpoles and planting of eight Live Oak trees. At this point, Ms. Macon
passed out copies of two site plans -Schemes A and B showing the location
of the proposed Improvements. The drawings also indicated a sidewalk
because at some future date, more enhancements could be added in and
around the area where the flagpoles, benches and historical markers are
located. Adding the sidewalk, along with the benches, will create an area
where people can sit and enjoy the Information that is available on the
historical markers and also enjoy the solitude and serenity of the cemetery.
Mr. Gordon referenced Schemes A and B. Mr. Gordon continued that all of
the proposed improvements occur on the Ramirez Street side of the
cemetery; which is the south side. Mr. Gordon went on to say that there
are two differences between Schemes A and B. Scheme A indicates a
sidewalk coming into the cemetery off of an existing 10-foot wide gate.
Once entry is made and turning to the right, the scheme shows the
sidewalk, historical markers, three flagpoles, and two benches located at
the end of the sidewalk. Scheme B has the same components, but a
marker and bench are placed together at each end of the sidewalk. The
flagpoles are in shown in the same location. Mr. Gordon stated this
particular phase recommends only two flagpoles and planting of the eight
Live Oak trees paralleling Ramirez Street. The eight trees represent the
eight sailors that were killed on the Dayton Steamship accident at the end
of the war. Mr. Gordon continued that phase two could possibly include
benches and the historical markers currently existing in the park would be
relocated to be a little more part of the sidewalk, flagpoles, and benches.
Mr. Gordon stated he wanted to present an overall concept of the
proposed improvements and not just come back to the Commission each
time for approval of sidewalks and benches. After Mr. Gordon's
presentation, the floor was opened for questions and comments.
Mr. Phillips asked where is the current location of the markers and Mr.
Gordon answered the markers were located basically to the right and left
of the 10-foot wide gate opening. Mr. Gordon continued that the markers
are for the Dayton Steamship accident and Old Bayview Cemetery. Mr.
Phillips asked for clarification if these were the markers to be relocated
and Mr. Gordon stated that once the benches and flagpoles were added,
the markers would be out of place and relocating the markers would be
done in the future.
Mr. Phillips stated that the Nueces County Historical Commission will take
part in the February 5, 2000 marker dedication, along with the County
Judge. Mr. Gordon stated that if the commission wanted more
information or had any questions regarding the marker ceremony, Ms.
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Gonzalez could provide more information. At this point in the meeting,
the floor was turned over to Ms. Rosie Gonzalez.
Ms. Gonzalez stated she was a member of the Descendants of Mexican War
Veterans organization. Ms. Gonzalez continued that the organization Is co-
sponsoring the flag raising and planting ceremony to commemorate 152
years of peace after signing of the Guadalupe Hidalgo Treaty. The treaty
was signed February 2, 1848 ending the war between Mexico and the
United States. Ms. Gonzalez stated that the group would be honoring the
gravesites of the first eight casualties, with planting of the eight oak trees,
since their original burial sites are unknown in the cemetery. The flag
raising will include both flags to commemorate the peace between the
two countries and unveiling of the markers will be done by the Nueces
County Historical Commission for the steamship. Ms. Gonzalez continued
the ceremony will be Saturday, February 5, 2000 at 10 a.m. and speakers will
be from both Mexico and the United States. The keynote speaker is a State
Representative from the state of Nuevo Leon. Congressman Solomon Ortiz
will also be one of the speakers along with Senator Carlos Truan, Mayor
Loyd Neal, Colonel Dawkins from the Corpus Christi Army Depot, and
Captain Guerrero from the Coast Guard.
Mr. Phillips asked if the Veterans Band would be participating and Ms.
Gonzalez answered yes and also Judge Richard Borchard will be at the
ceremony. Thanks were expressed to Ms. Gonzalez for attending today's
meeting. At this point, the floor was given back to Mr. Gordon. Mr.
Gordon stated in his closing remarks that staff was recommending Scheme
B and the Master Review Committee concurs with that recommendation.
After all comments and discussion concluded, the following action was
taken:
IT WAS MOVED BY MS. CHAPMAN AND SECONDED BY MR. PHILLIPS
THAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE
MASTER REVIEW COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION OF SCHEME B FOR
THE INSTALLATION OF THE TWO FLAGPOLES AND PLANTING OF THE
EIGHT LIVE OAK TREES IN THE BAYVIEW CEMETERY.
MOTION PASSED.
PRESENTATION ON GRANT APPLICATION FOR COPPINI FOUNTAIN: Ms. Pamela
Gooby, Park and Recreation, addressed the commission. Ms. Gooby stated
she was the Staff Liaison to the Art and Cultural Commission, in addition,
she also commission works of art for public places in the city, and oversees
a grant program that provides financial assistance to arts and cultural
organizations within the city. Ms. Gooby continued that as part of her
work as staff liaison to the Art Commission, she is also responsible for the
maintenance of the City's permanent art collection. Ms. Gooby stated she
was at today's meeting to talk about the Coppini sculpture, whose actual
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name is "Queen of the Sea." The sculpture was the first commissioned art
piece for the city. Ms. Gooby stated she brought slides to show what she
has been doing in the way of explaining what restoration work will take
place on the sculpture. Ms. Gooby stated the sculpture is reinforced from
the inside and has been there since 1914. Ms. Gooby continued that behind
the sculpture are wire, rebar, and metal stubbing which creates the look of
granite for the sculpture; but actually it is a composite. Over the years, the
reinforcing rebars and steel components have oxidized because of the
environment, and in addition, in 1938, someone thought the best idea was
to clean it through sandblasting to remove the old paint. The sandblasting
accelerated oxidation of the internal rebar and, as a result over the years, it
caused swelling of the inner materials to break and crack the surface of the
sculpture. Again over time, pieces of the sculpture have fallen off. Ms.
Gooby continued that about ten years ago, a restoration on the sculpture
was undertaken by a local artist, but the restoration was done without the
information that was recently revealed through x-rays taken of the
sculpture and having material samples analyzed.
Ms. Gooby stated that after this information was obtained, she applied to
an organization in Washington, D.C. called Save Outdoor Sculpture. Ms.
Gooby continued that Mr. Doyle Willis Informed her of the organization.
Ms. Goody stated that for the new millennium, the organization teamed up
approximately $1.5 million from Target Stores and the National
Endowment for the Arts, along with the White House Millennium Council to
offer grants to restore historical sculptures with a commitment to restore
at least one in each state. The City of Corpus Christi's "Queen of the Sea"
sculpture was the only recipient for the State of Texas. Ms. Gooby
continued that it is a matching grant. Before receiving the grant, a
significant amount of study was conducted, including having x-rays taken
of the sculpture and analyzing material samples to know exactly what the
composites were made of. Also, services of a professional restoration
expert were obtained to look at the sculpture to provide advice and
different options as to the best way to restore it. John Dennis, Senior
Conservator of objects for the Dallas Museum of Art, came to Corpus Christi
about a year and one-half ago to do the original assessment and to advise
us on how to gather the needed information. Mr. Dennis has been
designated, through the application to Save Outdoor Sculpture, as the
Conservator for this project. Ms. Gooby stated she has a marketing
strategy plan to make the public aware of the value and significance of the
sculpture and its historical references to the growth to the City of Corpus
Christi. Ms. Gooby continued that she has compiled a slide presentation
that was shown to the Nueces County Commission several weeks ago. At
this point, the slide presentation was given. Ms. Gooby stated she was
unaware that she had to present the proposal to the Landmark
Commission, but after the Nueces County Commission meeting and later
talking with several staff members, she was told that the Landmark
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Commission had to be notified since it was the CLC for the City. The slide
presentation provided visual background and historical information
regarding the public art sculpture. The sculpture was the first public art
piece commissioned in the city. In 1909, The Daughters of the American
Revolution obtained the services of an Italian artist to make the sculpture.
After the slide presentation, Ms. Gooby continued that the overall plan the
restoration of the sculpture was three-fold:
1) Remove the sculpture from its current location in the bluff
balustrade area so it can be treated. The sculpture is in six (6) pieces.
2) once removed, it will be taken to the conservatory studio in Dallas,
Texas and a mold will be made in a more permanent material; and
3) The original sculpture will be replaced with a replica and the original
one will be placed in a climate control environment.
Ms. Gooby stated she spoke with Rick Stryker, Director of the Museum,
about possibly placing the sculpture In the museum and he suggested that
it be placed within the expansion of the convention center or at Texas A&M
University at Corpus Christi. After Ms. Gooby's presentation, the floor was
opened for discussion.
Ms. Macon asked if any contact had been made with the Texas Historical
Commission (THC) about removing the sculpture from the bluff area, since
it was part of the bluff balustrade and was listed on the National Register
and Ms. Gooby stated she had not contacted anyone at THC. Mr. Phillips
interjected that contact person at THC was Garron Hyte. Mr. Phillips
continued that after Ms. Gooby left the County Commission's meeting,
there was discussion about removing the sculpture from Its original
location and whether or not there would be enough funds to do the
restoration project.
Mr. Luddeke asked if the x-rays were used to determine the steel locations
or did they determine that there was a void space behind the sculpture
and Ms. Gooby answered no the x-rays did not. Ms. Gooby continued that
one of the reasons the x-rays provided just enough information to know
about the metal involved is because the wall behind the sculpture is almost
a foot thick and it was hard to get an x-ray through that denseness.
Ms. Douglas asked how much was the grant for and Ms. Gooby answered
that the grant was for $14,300 and it was being matched with about
S14,400. Ms. Gooby continued that the grant funding had already been
allocated. Ms. Douglas asked if there was a history on the County Historical
Commission approving the substitution of the original piece with a
reconstructed piece in order to preserve It so that it does not deteriorate.
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Ms. Douglas also asked if this practice was commonly done in other places
where sculptures were deteriorating and Ms. Gooby responded that she
did not how often something like this was done. Ms. Gooby continued she
did not know how many public sculptures were made of this type of
material. Ms. Gooby stated the Save Outdoor Sculpture Review Panel is
made up of approximately fifteen (15) to eighteen (18) conservators from
around the nation and courtiers and historians reviewed all of the grants
before the awards were allocated.
Mr. Luddeke asked if the original sculpture was repaired and placed back in
its original location was there an anticipated life span of the sculpture for
another fifty to one hundred years with today's technology and composite
materials for repair work to an original piece. Mr. Luddeke continued he
thought it would be best to have the original restored and left at its
original location rather than having an original and a replica. Ms. Gooby's
response was that once the metals began to oxidize, the process couldn't
be reversed or stopped. The only thing that can be done was to slow it
down by removing it from a watery and salty environment.
Mr. Phillips stated as an example of an original public art statue being
removed from its outside environment was the David Statue in Florence,
Italy and a replica was placed outside. The reason for the removal of the
statue was because of the pollutants, acid rain, and smog that contributed
greatly its deterioration.
Ms. Garza asked what was the time period in starting the restoration
project and Ms. Gooby answered that a kick-off event is tentatively
scheduled for April 14, 2000; which coincides with the original dedication
date in 1915 and the previous restoration dedication was celebrated on
April 14, 1991. Ms. Gooby continued that ceremonially, she would like to
begin the restoration at that time. Ms. Gooby stated she and John Dennis
had spoken about a tentative time line, originally he was thinking about
what was best for the city and when was the best time to finish it. Ms.
Gooby stated she felt springtime would offer better conditions for
working on site of the sculpture since it was cooler rather than starting in
July. Ms. Gooby continued it was at that time that Mr. Dennis suggested
moving the sculpture to Dallas to do the restoration. He felt it would be
more expeditiously and convenient for him and climate controlled in the
studio.
Ms. Macon asked Mr. Phillips what was the County Historical Commission's
response on the presentation and if they were comfortable with the
suggestion of moving the sculpture to Dallas. Mr. Phillips stated in
response to Ms. Macon's question that the commission agreed with the
restoration project, but concerns were voiced about the idea of moving
the sculpture to Dallas and again, whether there was enough money to
restore it. The County Commission wanted to make sure that Ms. Gooby
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Interfaced with city officials and possibly obtain a sign-off since the city has
a vested interest in this sculpture.
Ms. Chapman asked how would the sculpture be transported and Ms.
Gooby answered it would be crated and transported by truck. Ms. Gooby
continued that Mr. Dennis is a professional and has a great deal of
experience and we will be relying on that experience.
Ms. Douglas asked Ms. Gooby what did she want the Landmark Commission
to do at today's meeting. Mr. Belcher stated if it was appropriate, he
wanted to take the following action:
IT WAS MOVED BY MR. BELCHER THAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION
APPROVE THE RESTORATION PROJECT ON THE COPPINI FOUNTAIN,
PENDING APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
MOTION DIED DUE TO LACK OF A SECOND.
Ms. Garza stated the restoration project is a good idea, but when will it be
disclosed where the original sculpture will be relocated. Ms. Garza
continued that the original sculpture has been at this location for so many
years and it is a great part of the bluff attraction to the downtown area.
Ms. Gooby's response was that she wanted to give a press release, and
other articles through the media, stating that a permanent home is being
sought for the sculpture. Ms. Gooby continued that out of protocol, she
did not want to issue a press release until all of the organizations had been
spoke with. The question was asked when would the replica be in place
and Ms. Gooby responded that if the time lines were adhered to with an
April 14 starting date, it might be possible to have it in place by the fall.
Ms. Macon stated that before the Landmark Commission take any action on
the restoration project, she suggested the Landmark Commission direct
Planning and Park and Recreation Staff to contact THC to ensure they are in
agreement with and approve removal of the sculpture from the bluff area.
After further discussion, the following action was taken:
IT WAS MOVED BY MR. PHILLIPS AND SECONDED BY MR. BELCHER
THAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION TENTATIVELY APPROVE THE
RESTORATION PROJECT, PENDING STAFF CONTACTING CARRON HYTE
AT THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
MOTION PASSED.
Mr. Phillips clarified that Garron Hyte is the contact person he spoke with at
THC and he is responsible for the National Register of Historic Places
program.
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Thanks were expressed to Ms. Gooby for attending today' meeting and
presenting the restoration project. Ms. Macon requested a copy of for
commission records of the grant proposal project.
ITEMS TO BE SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT MEETING:
Ms. Macon stated for the February meeting, she would like to place the
historical plaques on the agenda, since the plaques have come in. Ms.
Macon stated she had previously spoken with Mike Gordon regarding park
crews installing the plaques and he had mentioned that it would be
possible. Staff has to develop a legal document allowing entrance onto
private property to install the plaques.
Ms. Macon stated the Commission should also review what has been added
to the historical brochure and possibly update it so that it can be
completed and sent to the printers at the next meeting.
Ms. Macon stated she had not received official written notification from
the Texas Historical Commission regarding the grant proposal to develop a
web site. The grant was for $7,000. Ms. Douglas stated she received a copy
of a letter from THC stating the grant proposal was approved and she
would fax a copy of the letter to her since the letter was written to Ms.
Macon.
Mr. Phillips asked if the Commission had received any additional
information on the Gold Star Court and Ms. Macon answered she had
spoken with Mike Gordon and was told that he did send a letter to the Gold
Star Court Committee informing them that the Landmark Commission
approved the plan presented by Park and Recreation in November 1999;
and they could proceed with the sidewalk and installation of the eternal
light back on the bluff. Ms. Macon continued that Mr. Gordon stated he
left documentation in the file that there were two items, not included In
the plan, and they will need approval from the Landmark Commission to
approve those items before they can be added to the bluff area.
Mr. Maraist asked if any additional financial incentive surveys had been
received and Ms. Macon answered no.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 5:40 p.m.
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