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MINUTES
LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
OCTOBER 22, 1992
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Edwin Goodman, Chairman
Ms. Cynthia Hill-McKinney
Ms. Pam Lakhani
Mr. Govind Nadkarni
Ms. Bunny Tinker
MEMBERS ABSENT: Ms. Patricia Atkins
Ms. Nancy Bowen
Mr. James Catron
Mr. Les Mabrey
Ms. Alclair Pleasant
Mr. Michael Shelly
Mr. Donald Victory
Mr. Joe Williams
STAFF PRESENT: Ms. Faryce Goode-Macon, Staff Liaison
Mr. Michael Gunning, Senior Planner
Ms. Linda Williams, Recording Secretary
The meeting was called to order at 4:40 p.m. by Mr. Edwin Goodman, Chairman.
The roll was called and a quorum was not present.
ACTION ITEM(S)t
Approval of September 24. 1992 Minutes. The minutes will be approved at
the November meeting.
Approval of Master Review Committee 's Recommendation On Location of
Public Phone In Heritage Park: Mr. Dan Whitworth, Park Superintendent for
Park and Recreation, addressed the Commission. Mr. Whitworth passed
around photographs of the public telephone and its signage in the proposed
location. Mr. Whitworth stated that Heritage Park consist of several
historical houses that have been restored and they provide offices for several
non-profit groups in the City. The Park complex has a tenants ' association.
Mr. Whitworth continued that because of the increased activity in the park
area, the need has come for a telephone that is easily accessible to the public.
The proposed location for the phone is on the side wall of the courtyard
adjacent to the restrooms. The directional sign is to be of similar design as
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that of the restroom sign and will be placed immediately below the restroom
sign, which is planned for relocation near the center entryway wall of the
courtyard. The restroom and directional signs will be located on the exterior
wall of the courtyard. Mr. Whitworth continued that normally a pay phone
would not be allowed in this area, but because this location is the most
unobtrusive and cannot be easily accessed at night, Southwestern Bell
approved the location. Mr. Whitworth stated the phone would be the
standard wall-mounted blue pay phone. After Mr. Whitworth's presentation,
the question was asked by Ms. Hill if Southwestern Bell required TDDs and
Mr. Whitworth responded no.
Ms. Tinker asked if it was possible to build a shadow box around the phone
and Mr. Whitworth answered he would check with Southwestern Bell to see
if it was permissible and if so, he would let the Commission know at the
November meeting when the Commission will approve the site plan.
After all comments had been received, it was the consensus of members
present to accept and approve the proposed location of the pay phone and
directional sign as presented by Mr. Whitworth and
recommended by the Master Review Committee. Due to the lack of a
quorum, final action will be taken at the November meeting.
Mr. Whitworth extended an invitation and passed out fliers to Commissioners
and Staff to attend the Folklife Celebration. The celebration will start
Saturday, November 7 through Sunday, November 8, 1992 in Heritage Park.
DISCUSSION ITEM(S):
Committee Report on "HC"Ordinance Review: Mr. Goodman requested Ms.
Hill to report the outcome of the meetings with Staff. Ms. Hill referenced a
summary sheet provided by Staff. Ms. Hill continued that the purpose of the
committee meeting with Ms. Macon, Mr. Gunning, and Mr. Hart was to fine
tune some of the references in the ordinance. There were some things that
were repetitive and that could have been reworded more clearly. Ms. Hill
continued that at the meeting Mr. Hart attended, he indicated that there
wouldn't be a problem in making the changes. Ms. Hill suggested that the
Landmark Commission have the opportunity to review the revised version of
non-substantive changes that were requested other than the "owners' consent
for facade review"issue. A great deal of progress was made and the outcome
of the meetings was that the Landmark Commission has an ordinance that
makes sense and is easier to understand. Ms. Hill continued also that another
purpose of the meetings was to eliminate confusing terminology. As far as the
issue on owners' consent, which was discussed at the last meeting, there was
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a lot of compromising by both City Staff and the Landmark Commission.
Both groups were willing to work together to make some changes and
concessions. The only item that was being discussed was what structures
would the Landmark Commission be able to "HC"designate without owner's
consent. At this point, Ms. Hill referenced Figure 1, Page 4 in the proposed
ordinance. Ms. Hill continued that the Commission is requesting the right to
"HC"designate facades of properties under the classifications of "public and
private not opened to the public" and "public and private opened to the
public" without owners'consent. Ms. Hill stated the Commission should keep
in mind that this designation does not keep the property owner from
ultimately doing what they want to do. The Commission can only request the
owner to make changes to the facades to conform to the history of the area;
but after the specified time frame, they can make whatever changes they
wanted initially. The time frame for repair/maintenance is ninety (90) days
and for demolition the time frame is one hundred eighty (180) days. Ms. Hill
stated some cities have their ordinance where the Landmark Commission can
designate without owners' consent and some do not. Ms. Hill continued that
initially, the time frame gives the Commission time to work with the property
owner if there is a conflict. Ms. Hill stated that after all revisions are made,
the next step is to move forward with the ordinance and see if there is Staff
support for the ordinance and move on to the next level; which is the
Planning Commission, and finally letting Council decide on the ordinance.
Mr. Gunning stated he had not discussed the ordinance with staff members
or the Planning Director. Mr. Gunning stated he agreed with Ms. Hill that
a full commission should have been here at today's meeting so that more input
and discussion could take place rather than having to bring the ordinance
back at a later date. With the amendment to the definition of"facade,"which
was the recommendation submitted by Ms. Tinker, that would restrict the
facade to only one view--that being the view from the public right-of-way, or
in cases where the facade abuts a park, the park view also. Mr. Gunning
asked if the Commission was ready to schedule a public hearing for the
ordinance or place it as a discussion item for the November meeting. Mr.
Goodman answered that he would like to get the discussion completed
between today's meeting (October 22, 1992) and the November meeting so
that the ordinance can be voted on at the November meeting. A question was
asked if the revisions could be made to the ordinance and distributed to
commission members in time to review before the next meeting and it was
answered by Mr. Gunning that the revisions would be completed and the
ordinance would be mailed to Commissioners by Thursday, November 12,
1992, or delivered on Friday, November 13, 1992.
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Retort On Necessity of Signing Affidavit by Commission Members to Abstain
From Voting On Agenda Item(s): Ms. Faryce Goode-Macon, Staff Liaison,
addressed the Commission. Ms.Macon stated that at the September meeting,
several Commissioners requested affidavits to sign and file with the City
Secretary's office regarding possible conflict of interests. To that end, a copy
of an affidavit disclosure statement, along with the ordinance that regulates
conflicts of interest, were distributed in the packets. Ms. Macon continued
that approximately two (2) years ago, City Council appointed an Ethics
Commission to review established guidelines and criteria regarding rules of
conduct for all council members, board members, and employees. As part of
the Commission's task, Article V, Code of Ethics, was rewritten in its entirety,
which included criteria defining "conflicts of interest." Ms. Macon continued
that for those commissioners signing an affidavit, a brief statement should be
included clarifying what the conflict of interest would be. Ms. Macon stated
that Ms.Hill and Mr. Nadkarni both requested an affidavit. The question was
asked by Ms. Hill if an affidavit had to be filed each time a commissioner
wanted to abstain from voting on an agenda item and it was answered no,
only if financial or legal interest were involved. At this point, Mr. Gunning
explained that he was not sure how the affidavits would apply to the
Landmark Commission, but basically they are available for members who
meet the definition for conflict of interest whether it is from a legal or
financial standpoint. Mr. Gunning stated as an example if an agenda item
appears controversial or may appear as a conflict of interest because someone
addresses the Commission that is a personal friend, an affidavit may not be
needed, an abstention vote will serve the same purpose. Mr. Gunning
continued that an affidavit is to be signed by commission members when one
or more of the reasons stated in the Code of Ordinance apply. If an agenda
item is scheduled and a Commissioner feels that he/she should not vote, that
Commissioner has the choice of abstaining. At this point, Mr. Gunning
introduced Mr. Norbert Hart, Assistant City Attorney, to the Landmark
Commission. Mr. Gunning stated that Mr. Hart is Legal Staff support for the
Planning Department, Planning Commission, and the Landmark Commission.
Report On Meeting With Habitat Representatives Concerning Acquiring and
Restoring Housing of Historical Value For Clients: Ms. Macon stated she did
not meet with representatives of the local Habitat Office. A mutual meeting
date could not be scheduled before today's meeting. Ms. Macon continued
that a committee should be appointed to meet with the Habitat officials to
discuss the housing program. After a brief discussion, Mr. Goodman
appointed Landmark Commissioners Michael Shelly, Donald Victory, Nancy
Bowen, and Faryce Goode-Macon, Staff Liaison, as the committee to meet
with representatives of the Habitat Office. Staff will schedule a meeting and
inform Commissioners of the meeting date and time. Mr. Gunning asked
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what was the function of this committee and Ms. Macon responded that there
is a federal program entitled "CHORE," proposed out of Community
Development, regarding non-profit organizations restoring/repairing houses
in targeted neighborhoods as rental properties for low income clients. The
local Habitat office has not been approached to be a part of the program, and
the Commission felt this would be a great opportunity to meet with them to
see if there is an interest in finding homes from the site survey. Mr. Gunning
suggested that a staff member from Community Development attend the
meeting to answer any questions that may come up.
Report On Status of Jim Belanger's House Located On Mestina Street
Regarding Disapproval of House Relocation Due To Non-payment of Taxes;
Ms. Macon stated she went to the Tax Appraisal District office and obtained
a computer printout of Mr. Belanger's account for the subject property located
at 1623 Mestina. According to the computer printout, there is an outstanding
balance for back taxes totaling $420.66 and there is a provision that a
structure cannot be removed from its premise if there are outstanding taxes
due on the property. Ms. Macon continued that according to the printout, the
assessed value of the property is $11,300. Ms. Macon stated that staff in the
Appraisal Office could not provide any additional information, but they did
provide the name of the law firm representing the County who would be able
to provide more information on the next step that should be taken. After
Staff's report, discussion followed. Ms. Hill asked how did the Landmark
Commission get involved with the Belanger property and Ms. Tinker
explained that approximately one and one-half years ago, Mr. James (Jim)
Belanger contacted her regarding the City wanting to demolish his house. Mr.
Belanger had received several letters from Neighborhood Improvement
requesting that the house be repaired, bringing it up to City Code, or the
house would be demolished. At that time, several commissioners toured the
house and were favorably inclined to recommend that the City accept the
house. Ms. Tinker continued that at that time, Mr. Belanger was not willing
to donate the structure. The current situation is that Mr. Belanger has a
buyer for the house, but it can't be moved from its present location because
of the taxes owed. Ms. Macon added that she has not contacted the attorney
because she really is not sure what the Landmark Commission can do at this
point. After all comments and discussion were received, no action was taken.
Ms. Hill asked why didn't Mr. Belanger sell the house and pay the taxes owed
-- that would be a logical solution. Ms. Macon stated that her suggestion
seemed logical, but she did not know all of the legalities involved. Ms. Macon
asked if any commissioner would be interested in contacting the County's
attorney and Ms. Hill stated she would contact the law firm and report at the
November meeting.
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Appoint Members to Subcommittees: The following members were appointed
to the subcommittees for the term year of 1992 - 1993:
Awards- Pat Atkins, Chair
Nancy Bowen
Alclair Pleasant
Master Review- Bunny Tinker,Chair
Les Mabrey
Govind Nadkarni
Joe Williams, Advisory
Ordinance - Cynthia Hill-McKinney, Chair
Pam Lakhani
Bunny Tinker
Research - Michael Shelly, Chair
Nancy Bowen
Donald Victory
Historical Site Survey- Bunny Tinker,Chair
James Catron
Pam Lakhani
Joe Williams, Advisory
Mr. Goodman added that he and Ms. Macon were available to work with any
of the committees.
At this point in the meeting, Mr. Goodman acknowledged receipt of a letter
received from Adam Klager, who is interested in serving on the Landmark
Commission. Mr. Klager is employed in the office of John Erickson,
Appraisers. Mr. Klager will replace Ms. Mary Ellen Collins, who resigned
effective at the September meeting.
Mr. Goodman stated he would like to suggest that Staff review the possibility
of reducing the number of commissioners serving on the Landmark
Commission. Mr. Goodman continued that if the number is reduced, it may
be easier to get a quorum at the meetings. Mr. Goodman stated it is very
frustrating to come to meetings and nothing can be done because there is not
enough people to transact the business scheduled. Ms. Hill asked what
procedure would be followed in decreasing the number and Ms. Macon
answered that part of the problem is that this Commission is certified by the
State based on a fifteen (15) member commission. Competencies were based
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on the total number of fifteen (15); and of the total, ten (10) are specific
competencies and five (5) are regular members. Staff was requested to see
what guidelines to follow in possibly having the number decreased and if it
was allowed and report at the November meeting.
Ms. Hill asked if there wasn't a policy on attendance at the meetings, and Ms.
Macon answered that about two years ago under the leadership of Peggy
Clark, the City Secretary's office introduced a new directive to all City boards,
commissions, and committees regarding absenteeism. The directive stated
that each board, commission, or committee had the authority to establish their
own policy in deciding whether an absence would be excused or unexcused.
Originally, the policy was that a member of any board could not miss more
than 25% of the meetings scheduled or a member would be counted absent
or tary if they missed were more than 50% of the scheduled agenda items.
If a member missed more than the 25% allowed, their term was automatically
terminated, but that policy has been replaced with the "Excused Absence
Policy." Staff was requested to write a letter to commission members
requesting their attendance at the monthly meetings and how importance their
attendance is in getting projects accomplished. Mr. Goodman requested to
see the letter in draft before it is distributed to the membership.
Select Meeting Dates For November and December Meetings. Mr. Goodman
stated that the Landmark Commission's regular meeting date for November
falls on the Thanksgiving Holiday and the December meeting date falls during
the Christmas Holidays; therefore, alternate dates should be selected for both
meetings. After a brief discussion, it was the consensus of members present
that the November meeting date be changed to November 19, 1992 and the
December meeting canceled.
Ms. Tinker informed the Commission that the Nueces County Historical
Society has commissioned an adaptive reuse study for the 1914 Nueces County
Courthouse.
Ms. Tinker also referenced an article contained in the National Trust
Preservation News, which contained an article on a historic district located in
downtown Dallas. The district was made of small shotgun houses.
"Set Sail For Downtown" 10th Annual Downtown Revitalization Conference
will be held in Corpus Christi from November 4-6, 1992. The conference is •
sponsored by the Texas Historical Commission and the Texas Downtown
Association. Ms. Tinker stated it would be nice if a commissioner could
attend the conference since it is here in the city and it would be beneficial.
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Ms. Tinker requested Staff to obtain a copy of the Affordable Housing
Updates as referenced in the Fall 1992 CLG Newsletter, on page 3. The
report is a collection of stories of low and moderate income citizens, who
were pushed out of the housing market. It includes a set of recommendations
for reducing barriers to affordable housing.
The meeting was unofficially adjourned at 6 p.m.