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MINUTES
LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
JANUARY 26, 1995
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Edwin Goodman, Chairman
Mr. Joe Dove
Mr. Neel Fulghum
Mr.Adam Klager
Ms.Pam Lakhani
Ms.Melissa Nucete
Mr. Ronald Smith
Ms. Bunny Tinker
Mr.Joe Williams
MEMBERS ABSENT: Mr.James Catron (Excused)
Mr.Leslie Mabrey,Advisory
Mr. Govind Nadkarni (Excused)
Mr. Charles Speed (Excused)
Mr. John Wright (Excused)
STAFF PRESENT: Mr.Michael Gunning, Senior Planner
Ms.Faryce Goode-Macon, City Planner
Ms. Linda Williams,Recording Secretary
The meeting was called to order by Mr. Edwin Goodman, Chairman at 4:40 p.m.
The roll was called and a quorum was not present. Upon arrival of Ms.Bunny Tinker,
a quorum was declared.
Mr. Ronald Smith, new commissioner, was welcomed and introduced to the
Landmark Commission members. Mr. Smith is a resident of the city and is owner
of Tranco Properties, a local real estate company. Mr. Smith feels the competency of
a realtor replacing Ms. Cynthia Hill,who did not seek reappointment.
Mr. Goodman informed commission members that a replacement for Patricia
Atkins was also needed. Mr. Goodman continued that Ms.Atkins requested a leave of
absence from the commission to pursue completion of her doctoral degree at the
University of Texas in Austin, Texas. The leave of absence was to be for about six-
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months because she wanted to retain her membership on the commission. Since that
time, Ms. Atkins has moved to Austin and is working. Mr. Goodman encouraged
commissioners to be thinking of possible appointees to fill Ms. Atkins' vacancy. Staff
was requested to follow-up with Mr. Chapa in the City Secretary office to let him know
of the vacancy.
Mr. Goodman continued that Ms. Hill filled the vacancy of a real estate attorney.
Mr. Goodman stated that If an attorney. certified in real estate could be found that would
be good. It was continued by Mr. Goodman that he would like to see if it was
possible to move Mr. Smith into the competency filled by Ms. Atkins and seek a real
estate attorney. Staff was requested to follow-up with, Mr. Chapa and see what
procedures should be followed In this matter and If the proposal would be allowed.
Mr. Dove commented that he knows Ms. Ann Vaty, a recently retired history
teacher from Ray High School and he will contact her to see if she would be interested
In serving on the Landmark Commission. Mr. Dove will follow up with Ms. Macon to let
her know whether or not to send the needed application that has to be on rile in the City
Secretary's office.
Ms. Macon informed Mr. Goodman and commission members that John Wright
has requested a leave of absence from the commission for about four months to take
a course at Texas A&M - Corpus Christi. the course is offered on the fourth Thursday
of each month, which is the Commission's regularly scheduled meeting dates. After
a brief discussion, Mr. Wright's leave of absence was approved by Mr. Ed Goodman,
Chairman.
ACTION ITEM(S):
Approval of August 25 1994 and October 27 1994 - Minutes: The minutes
were approved as distributed.
Appoint Nominating Commmittee to Select Chairman and Vice Chairman:
Mr. Goodman stated that each year in January, a new chairman and vice-
chairman are elected. Ms. Hill served as vice-chairman for last year. Mr.
Goodman stated that a nominating committee was appointed to bring
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back a recommendation for new officers for commission members to
approve. After a brief discussion,Mr. Joe Dove was appointed to chair
the Nominating Committee and Ms. Lakhani and Ms. Nucete were
appointed as members. The committee will make its recommendation at
the February 23, 1995 meeting.
Approve Master Review Committee's Recommendation to Accent Donation
of the Buddy Lawrence House Located At 1217 McBride Lane- Mr. Tom
Utter, Group Manager for Development Services, addressed the
commission. Mr.Utter expressed thanks to the Landmark Commission for
allowing him to speak at today's meeting and at this point, Todd White,
great-grandson of Mr.Lawrence,was introduced to commissioners. Mr.
Utter began his presentation by stating that occasionally an opportunity
presents itself that one cannot miss. The donation of the Thomas
Merchant "Buddy" Lawrence House was that opportunity. The house is
located at 1217 McBride Lane. Buddy Lawrence Drive was named in honor
of Mr. Lawrence. Mr. Utter continued that the Lawrence House was
purchased by the Javelina Plant in an effort to create a buffer between
the plant and the residential houses located in the area. The Lawrence
House was one of several houses that were purchased by the plant
As background information, Mr. Lawrence was one of the county's first
residents to become involved with the vegetable truck farming industry
during the 1890s. In addition to truck farming,Mr.Lawrence served as a
county commissioner for twenty-eight(28)years. He also played a major
role in the "new paved roads" movement developing cow trails into paved
roads. The first hard road system of the county was constructed during
his tenure and the first causeway over the Nueces Bay was constructed.
The Lawrence House Is located across from an area that the Javelina
Plant Is buying out. The City has requested industrial companies to buy
properties where they are infringing on residential areas. The Javelins
Plant bought out property owners located between their plant and
McBride Lane; and the Lawrence House was included in the buy out Mr.
Utter continued that several Landmark Commissioners toured the house
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in order to make a recommendation to the full commission on whether the
house should be accepted and possibly relocated to the two-block area
behind Heritage Park. The photo board was passed around with pictures
of the Lawrence Family and the house. The top and bottom floors of the
house have been closed. Mr.Utter continued that Staff was told about the
house by Todd White and he wanted to know If the City would be
interested in the house. Mr.Utter further clarified that Mr.White does not
have a conflict of interest, even though he is a city employee.
Mr. Utter stated he spoke with a representative of Coastal Refinery
Corporation, which owns the Javelina Plant, and was told that the
company Is willing to donate the house to the city because they need to
clear the property. An agreement was worked out that the City purchase
the house for $10 and was given six months to move the house off its
current site. During that six-month period, the City will determine its
financial position and the economic Impact of accepting the house. Mr.
Utter continued that if it was feasible to move,the house would be moved
to a location in the two-block area next to the Seamen's Center. There are
some houses that have been donated to the city before,but the City was
unable to raise the monies to move them. The interior of the Lawrence
House has wonderful floors. Mr. White's family is the only family that
lived in the house. The house contains 3,400 square feet of living space
and it has a lot of character. Mr.Utter continued that he would like for
the Landmark Commission to approve acceptance of the house from the
Javelina Plant;which will give Staff six months to move the house. The
first thing to do would be to have the City architect get a cost estimate on
rehabilitation of the house. Mr.Utter added that house movers had been
contacted to also provide a cost estimate to move the house. The house
is very tall,which will add to the moving cost. Mr.Utter continent that a
tenant has been found for the house. Mr.Utter stated that Staff will get
back with the Landmark Commission within the next sixty(60)days, at
the most seventy-five (75). Mr. Utter continued that if Staff needed
additional time to move the house,the Javelins Plant could grant it.
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Mr. Utter continued there were several factors to be considered in
accepting and moving the house: 1) the economic and feasibility in
moving the house;and 2) a good cost estimate of how much it would cost
to restore the house. Mr.Utter stated since he began his public career,he
has been involved in approximately 7 or 8,000 rehabilitation projects,
mostly single-family residences, and one can never know what will be
found once the project is started. There will always be costs involved.
The Lawrence House is one of the larger remaining houses with board
and batten siding Instead of regular siding running horizontaL The board
and batten siding runs vertical and there is not an example of this nature
in the Heritage Park area. The house stands out because its siding,
which was an acceptable style of houses--not just for the shotgun house,
but it was also an acceptable style for large prominent families. Mr.Utter
continued that Staff has prevented the house from being demolished, and
he needed the commission's decision to accept or not accept the house so
that it can be presented to City Council on Tuesday, January 31, 1995.
After Mr. Utter concluded his presentation, the floor was turned over to
Ms. Bunny Tinker, member of the Landmark Commission Master Review
Committee.
Ms. Tinker stated that Mr. Joe Dove,Mr.John Wright, and herself, along
with Ms. Macon and Mr. Utter reviewed the house. Ms.Tinker continued
that the Master Review Committee is in agreement that the house should
be saved from demolition. Ms.Tinker continued there were several metal
structures located In the back of the house. Ms.Tinker continued that it
might be possible that they can be used. It was stated by Ms.Tinker that
there is a historical marker with the house, which also adds to its
significance. Ms. Tinker continued that she was not sure if the marker
could be moved to a new location or if the marker had to remain where it
was originally placed. The marker was granted based on Mr.Lawrence's
significant contributions to the community and county, beginning with
starting the first vegetable truck farmer on his 36-acre farm.
Mr. Goodman stated that if the Landmark Commission can help save the
house and get it placed in the Heritage Park area, this would be great.
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This is an opportunity to be able to place more houses near the Seamen's
Center. (Ms. Tinker requested that the minutes reflect that the Master
Review Committee did not formally meet before today's meeting,January
26, 1995,but generally commented about saving the structure during the
tour). After Ms. Tinker's committee report, the following action was
taken:
IT WAS MOVED BY MR. DOVE THAT THE LANDMARK
COMMISSION APPROVE THE MASTER REVIEW COMMITTEE'S
OVERVIEW TO ACCEPT THE "THOMAS MERCHANT "BUDDY"
LAWRENCE HOUSE OFFERED BY THE JAVELINA COMPANY.
After the motion was on the floor, further discussion ensued. Mr. Utter
explained that City Staff is not in any way supportive of moving old
houses Just to be moving them. In this situation,the Javelins Company
purchased the house and because of environmental concerns, the house
was going to be removed. Mr. Utter continued that there were three
options to consider. the City accept the donation of the house and save it,
find someone to move and save it, or allow the house to be demolished.
Mr. Goodman interjected that through the City and the Landmark
Commission,there Is a viable place to move the house into the Heritage
Park area and the house would complement what is already in the park
and would be an added accomplishment to what has already happened in
the area.
At this point, Mr. Goodman stated he wanted to complete the action
farted with Mr. Dove's motion on the floor and in order to complete Mr.
Dove's motion,a second was needed. Ms.Tinker added that since this was
a committee overview,a motion was not needed--all was needed was for
the commission to accept it. Mr.Dove withdrew his motion from the floor.
After final discussion,the Landmark Commission accepted and approved
the Master Review Committee's overview to accept the donation of the
Thomas Merchant "Buddy" Lawrence Family House from the Javellna
Plant
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Ms. Nucete asked Mr.Utter who would be looking into the cost of moving
the house and Mr.Utter answered that Staff has contacted several house
movers and requested a cost estimate from them.
Mr.Utter commented that all of the houses in the Heritage Park area were
moved into the park, and some of the houses were very large. Mr. Utter
continued that since Southwestern Bell and continued have franchises
with the City,their services will be gratis. Mr.Utter explained that some
of the cables under not included in the franchise and one of the biggest
problems in moving the house will be the underpass, off-ramps, and
access roads. The largest house moved into Heritage Park was the
Galvan House;which was cut in half before it was moved. The two houses
that were the strangest to move were the Merriman-Bobys'House,located
between the Cliff House and the Crude-Grossman House. When the
movers lifted the Grande-Grossman house,it was nothing but a shell of a
house.
Staff should have a cost estimate within the next sixty(60)to seventy-five
(75) days to find out if it is cost effective to undertake the project. Mr.
Utter stated that this restoration project was going to be fairly expensive
and he was asked to give an estimated cost of what it would be to move
the house off-site to its new location and restore it and Mr. Utter stated
that his estimation would be between $350-450,000, and that was a
modest estimate. Mr. Utter continued that the total cost for the Galvan
House was about$700,000. Mr. Utter stated that the restoration of the
Grande-Grossman House(now used by Bayfest,Inc.) was restored by Lulac
Council No. 1. The organization had a number of work weekends where
the membership did most of the work themselves, and the total cost of
restoration was$95,000. The Grande-Grossman House was in the poorest
physical condition of all the houses in the park. The McCampbell House
was restored by the Irish Cultural Society and their total restoration cost
was $850,000. All of the non-profit organizations had a difficult time in
restoring and maintaining their structures.
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Mr.Utter concluded by stating that the City has been looking for a house
that size to place in the Heritage Park area and the "Buddy" Lawrence
House will certainly work.
Identifying Public BuldingslStructures to Pursue For "HC" Zoning
Designations* Mr. Goodman stated that he and Ms. Macon had been
talking about thio agenda item and probably where we might want to
ursue "BC" zoning is with public buildings. At this point,Mr. Goodman
'trued the floor over to Ms. Macon to provide more Information. Ms.
Macon stated since the Commission is nearing completion of the
Preservation Site Survey, ]as a point of information for the new
commissioners, Ms. Macon briefly stated that the commission has been
Involved in a site survey of structures built in 1945 or prior to that period.
The structures were surveyed by a preservation consultant and the
commission reviewed the consultant's work.] Ms. Macon continued that
since most of the city has been surveyed and a newly adopted "BC"
zoning ordinance was approved by City Council, the commission is now
ready to begin identifying structures for possible "HC" designation. Ms.
Macon stated the commission should start with public structures owned
by the City, County, and Federal governments. Ms. Macon requested
commissioners to bring,to the February meeting,a list of possible public
structures that might be considered a high priority and worthy of the
commission's pursing for "11C" designation. The information will be
reviewed and compiled and proposing which structures the Commission
wants to initiate zoning applications forwarded to the Planning
Commission and City Council. Mr. Goodman asked if it was possible for
Staff to pull the slides of public structures that the Commission previously
rated as high priorities and bring to the February meeting to review them.
Mr.Goodman stated that was a good way to start the process and at the
same time, the new commissioners would be able to see the slides.
Mr.Gunning commented that it is obvious that we need to move forward
and begin to apply the new"HC" regulations before everyone forgets that
we have them. Mr. Gunning continued that the Landmark Commission
would have to submit zoning applications with detailed historical data to
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Staff who would then present them to the Planning Commission and City
Council. Mr. Gunning went on to say that it should be remembered that
"HC" zoning, even though it is an overlay, the same process would be
followed as other zoning requests -- such as notification of property
owners within a 200 foot radius of the subject property and public
hearings. Mr. Gunning stated that after the Landmark Commission
completed its review of the structures ranked with a high priority,it has
the authority to direct Staff to proceed with the "HC" zoning on the
properties.
After further discussion, Ms. Macon commented that she was trying to
find out If the Commission was ready to pursue designation, and if so,the
commission could start with the public structures,and those slides will be
brought to the February meeting. Mr. Goodman stated that the
Commission is ready to pursue designation. Achieving this goal would
result in seeing the hard work that was put into creating a new "HC"
zoning ordinance and trying to preserve those structures that are worthy.
Mr. Gunning added that the Commission should look at properties with a
high probability of being approved by the Planning Commission and City
CounciL
Identify Sites and Boundaries For Landmark Districts. Ms.Macon stated
that this item was something that Ms. Tinker would like to see the
commission pursue-establishing historic districts. Ms.Macon continued
that in pursing public buildings, the commission could also review what
area of town that could be outlined as historical site boundaries. The City
of Galveston has established several different districts,and some of those
districts do not have the regulations in place, but that is how they started
in getting those areas recognized. Mr. Goodman asked how would the
commission go about establishing and Identifying these districts and Ms.
Macon answered that a work map would be brought in for the
commissioners to review and commissioners could establish boundary
lines where there are high concentrations of properties. Ms. Macon
continued that ht the future,the Landmark Commission could apply for
THC grant monies to create a historical tourist folder that really described
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the districts and what properties are contained in them for the tourists as
well as for the citizens of Corpus Christi.
Ms. Macon informal commissioners that Ms. Sally Victor, Preservation
Consultant, will attend the February meeting to gave an update on Phase
II-B the Preservation Site Survey. Mr. Goodman asked what areas were
included in this phase and Ms.Macon answered the areas surveyed are all
of downtown, Soutn Morgan Avenue / North Louisiana Area, Agnes/Laredo
street / Airport Road, and South Louisiana / Ocean Drive / Airline Road.
Mr. Goodman stated that at the February meeting, he wanted to discuss
replacements for vacancies on the commission. Mr. Goodman also stressed the
importance of having a quorum present at each meeting. He continued it is hard to get
anything accomplished when there are not enough members present to conduct
business. Mr. Goodman stated the Commission will be reviewing and discussing
attendance at another meeting.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 5:55 p.m.
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Faryce Cio i e-Macon, City Planner
Staff Liais 1 n to Landmark Commission