HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Landmark Commission - 09/23/1999 MINUTES
LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
SEPTEMBER 23, 1999
MEMBERS PRESENT: Ms. Deborah Douglas, Chairman
Ms. Sharon Brower
Mr. Michael Cleary
Ms. Grandis Lenken
Mr. Mark Luddeke
Mr. Kevin Mara1st
Mr. Terry Orf
Mr. Elmon Phillips
Ms. Elizabeth Rentz
Mr. Tom Stewart
Ms. Bunny Tinker
MEMBERS ABSENT: Mr. Alan Belcher, Vice Chairman (Excused)
Ms. Betsy Chapman (Excused)
Ms. Lisa Garza (Excused)
Mr. Jerry Wagoner (Excused)
STAFF PRESENT: Ms. Faryce Goode-Macon, City Planner
Ms. Linda Williams, Recording Secretary
Ms. Deborah Douglas, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 4:35 p.m.
The roll was called and a quorum was declared.
ACTION ITEM(S):
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR AUGUST 26, 1999 MEETING: The minutes were
approved as distributed.
HISTORICAL PLAQUE PRESENTATION: Mr. Tom Stewart, Chairman of the
Historical Plaque Subcommittee, gave an update on the committee's
accomplishments. Mr. Stewart stated the committee met on Thursday,
September 9, 1999 in the Planning Department conference room.
Mr.Stewart continued that members present were Mark Luddeke, Elmon
Phillips, Jerry Wagoner, and himself. Mr. Stewart continued that the
committee discussed several sketch layouts that were prepared by Mr.
Luddeke - one sketch showing a 5"x7" oval insert was presented for
"Potential Landmark" properties and a 7"x10" oval Insert was presented for
"HC" designated properties. Mr. Stewart stated that Staff sent out letters
of bid to several companies and four (4) bids were received. The lowest bid
received was from the Erie Landmark Company out of Chantilly, Virginia.
Their bid was $52.00 each for the 7" x10" plaque and $42.00 each for the 5"x
7". Mr. Stewart continued that it is the committee's recommendation that
the Landmark Commission accepts the bid submitted by the Erie Landmark
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Company and proceeds with ordering the bronze plaques. Mr. Stewart
stated the plaques will have a brown background and the bronze would be
the best choice. Mr. Stewart continued that Planning Staff is working with
Mike Gordon of the Park and Recreation Department in having the plaques
installed. There are four variations from the sketch that was presented
about four weeks ago and they all have different textures.
Ms. Tinker asked if the Commission was voting to approve the design and
accept the bid as recommended by the committee and it was answered
yes. Ms. Tinker also asked if the design for the "HC" plaques would have the
suggested "HCL." Mr. Stewart stated he didn't think the public would know
what the "HC" stood for on the plaque design. Ms. Tinker stated that since
there are two groups are to be Identified, the designs should have some
consistency and her choice would be that they both include "HC."
Ms. Faryce Goode-Macon, Staff Liaison, stated she was researching what
other cities included on their designs and most of them used the words
"landmark" or "district." Ms. Douglas stated that a possible solution could
be to have a large "L" in the middle of the design with the letters "H" and
"C" on both sides of the "L."
Mr. Phillips asked if a plaque could be placed on a National Registry site and
It was answered that a plaque could not be placed on the site if it was not
designated "HC." Ms. Tinker explained that the only thing the "potential
landmark" designation does for a property is to flag the Building
Inspections Department so that a demolition permit cannot be issued for a
specified time limit. Ms. Tinker continued that she personally felt that the
"potential landmarks" should not have a plaque attached to it, but It is
better than not having any type of recognition for the property.
At this point, Ms. Macon asked commissioners to vote on which company
to use and to accept the bid from one of the four bids received. Mr.
Stewart commented that the cost of having the plaques made in bronze
over aluminum was not very significant. After further discussion, the
following action was taken: •
IT WAS MOVED BY MS. TINKER AND SECONDED BY MS. LENKEN THAT THE
LANDMARK COMMISSION APPROVE THE SUBMITTED DESIGN OF THE
PLAQUE FOR "HC" DESIGNATED PROPERTIES. THAT SUCH DESIGN HAVE
THE LARGE "L" IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OVAL INSERT WITH THE LETTERS
"HC" PLACED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE "L" AND THE WORDING "HC"
LANDMARK PLACED ON THE BOTTOM OF THE 7" X 10" PLAQUES AND THE
WAVE BE REPLACED WITH SMALL STARS.
MOTION PASSED.
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Mr. Maraist asked how many plaques were needed and Ms. Macon answered
that the cost break was for a minimum of 25 in each size. After further
discussion, the following action was taken:
IT WAS MOVED BY MS. TINKER AND SECONDED BY MS. RENTZ THAT THE
DESIGN FOR THE SMALLER PLAQUE ALSO HAVE A LARGE "L" IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE OVAL INSERT AND PLACE THE WORDING 'POTENTIAL LANDMARK"
AT THE BOTTOM OF THE 5"X7" PLAQUES, OTHERWISE DUPLICATING THE
PLAQUE DESIGN FOR "HC" PROPERTIES.
MOTION PASSED.
UPDATE ON HISTORICAL BROCHURE - BROCHURE COMMITTEE: Ms. Macon stated
that at this point and time, the committee has not really begun to write
and compile information for the brochure. Ms. Macon stated that staff has
not added any additional verbiage since the last draft presented at the
August meeting. Ms. Macon continued that after talking with Mr. Wagoner
at the August meeting, a category entitled "Historical Points of Interest"
would be added to the brochure.
UPDATE ON HISTORICAL FINANCIAL INCENTIVES - FINANCIAL INCENTIVE
COMMITTEE: Ms. Bunny Tinker stated that the Financial Incentive Committee
met last week in the Planning Department conference room. Ms. Tinker
continued that members present were Kevin Maraist, Alan Belcher,
Elizabeth Rentz and herself. For benefit of new commissioners, Ms. Tinker
provided a brief summary on how the committee was created. Ms. Tinker
stated that about one year ago, a public hearing was held before the
Planning Commission to consider and approve designating twenty-seven
(27) properties as "potential landmarks." The Planning Commission
approved the recommendation to designate the properties and it was
forwarded to City Council for final approval. At the City Council public
hearing, one of the council members requested the Landmark Commission
to pursue possible recommendations for financial incentives as it relates to
historical preservation. A committee was formed to follow up the request.
Ms. Tinker continued that at an earlier meeting, Alan Belcher was asked to
research the economic impact of tourism as to where economic
preservation is present, and Kevin Maraist was asked to make the
presentation. Ms. Tinker continued that at their last meeting, the
committee decided they wanted to contact the Mayor and City Council to
find out what they wanted the Landmark Commission to pursue. Ms.
Tinker went on to say that it has to be determined by the Commission
what is to be accomplished in pursuing financial incentives; which is to get
more owners to designate their properties. Ms. Tinker continued that the
committee wanted to create a survey/questionnaire and send It to the
Mayor and City Council to receive their input. Ms. Tinker stated she met
with Mr. Tom Utter, Assistant City Manager, this afternoon to let him
review the draft packet before it was sent to City Council. Ms. Tinker
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explained that the handout was a summary of the four types of incentives
that could be offered:
1) Ad Valorem tax;
2) A reduction of some or all permit fees;
3) Municipality grants; or
4) One percent of the hotel/motel tax that is available for
historical preservation.
Ms. Tinker continued that Mr. Utter suggested that Items 1 through 3 be
utilized in the survey sent to City Council along with a cover letter signed
by the chairman. The survey will be included in their Council packets. Ms.
Tinker continued that this was not coming from the committee as a
recommendation, but she personally felt that the Council should have the
opportunity to review the full range of options available. Ms. Tinker went
on to say that Mr. Utter will be at today's meeting to address the
commission.
Mr. Phillips asked what other cities provided this avenue as a resource for
preservation and Ms. Tinker answered that several of the larger cities,
Dallas, Forth Worth, Grapevine, Lubbock, all have some type of financial
Incentives for preservation.
At this point in the meeting, Ms. Tinker turned the floor over to Mr. Utter.
Mr. Utter expressed thanks for the opportunity to address the commission.
Mr. Utter stated that he met with Ms. Tinker earlier in the afternoon to
discuss the survey/questionnaire that the Landmark Commission wanted to
distribute to the Mayor and City Council. Mr. Utter continued by stating
that the City of Corpus Christi already receives money from the hotel/motel
tax for Heritage Park under Item 4. Mr. Utter continued that also monies
are taken from the hotel/motel tax to use for tourist/convention. Most
recently, the Hotel/Motel/Condominium Association questioned whether
the City should be using the hotel/motel tax monies, but it Is very
appropriate to send something to the Council for their consideration. Mr.
Utter continued that in the past, the Council has been somewhat hesitant
in offering financial incentives; however there has been a movement to
give tax abatements to owners in the downtown area. Mr. Utter stated
that he would ensure that the survey/questionnaire was sent to the
Council. Mr. Utter continued that the City depends on the tourist industry
and the city is limited in historical elements to preserve, but there are
some real fine examples of historical influences.
Ms. Tinker asked Mr. Utter what kind of track record did the Council have in
returning this type of report and Mr. Utter responded that the Council's
track record was very good. Mr. Utter continued that the City starts
preparing its budget in February and it is approved in July and he would
like for Council to receive the survey before the budget process starts and
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they should receive It sometime this fall. Ms. Tinker stated that a return
date of October 15, 1999 Is requested in the cover letter. After receiving
the responses, the Committee, along with a member of the Planning
Commission and Staff, can hopefully formulate a recommendation that will
be approved by everyone.
Mr. Orf stated his concern was that if the assessed tax rate was more than 1
percent, it could become a very sticky issue. By taking out the percentage
and outlining what portions of the hotel/motel tax Is used for preservation,
any possible situations would be eliminated.
Ms. Tinker stated she would like to research to find out how much property
owners would be saved in taxes for "HC" designated properties. The tax
incentive would clearly depend on what the interest is of the owner and
the program could be tailor made to meet the City's needs.
Mr. Maraist stated he knew a lady who was familiar with the Rutgers Report
and It showed the impact of tax incentive programs. Mr. Maraist continued
he could ask the lady to do a presentation to the Landmark Commission.
After all comments and questions were addressed, the following action
was taken.
IT WAS MOVED BY MS. TINKER AND SECONDED BY MS. LENKEN THAT THE
LANDMARK COMMISSION APPROVE SENDING THE SURVEY/QUESTIONNAIRE,
FINALIZED BY CITY STAFF AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE LANDMARK
COMMISSION, TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A COVER LETTER SIGNED BY THE
CHAIRMAN.
MOTION PASSED.
GOLD STAR COURT PROJECT UDPATE: Ms. Macon stated that at the August
meeting, she was requested to review the progress on the Gold Star Court
project. Ms. Macon continued she made a field inspection and found that
the markers are in place. Ms. Macon stated she spoke with Mike Gordon,
Park and Recreation Department, and he wanted to know If the Landmark
Commission had any more questions regarding the project. Ms. Macon
continued that he was told that the Commission wanted to know if the
walkway would be installed and Mr. Gordon responded that the walkway
would not likely be installed prior to the new year.
BUDDY LAWRENCE MARKER FOR HERITAGE PARK: Mr. Phillips stated he had a
question whether or not the Nueces County Historical Commission would
pay for the marker for the Buddy Lawrence House. Mr. Utter stated If the
County did not have enough money to pay for the marker, the City would
pay for the marker. Mr. Phillips stated the marker at the original site of the
Buddy Lawrence House does not mention the house, but refers only to the
site. A question was asked regarding which groups would be located in the
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Buddy Lawrence House and Mr. Utter responded that the Veterans Band
and the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce are the tenants.
Mr. Phillips stated that the markers for the other houses in Heritage Park
told about the salient features of the houses. Mr. Utter stated that the
markers for the houses In Heritage Park are Texas recorded markers. Mr.
Utter continued that the marker for the Galvan House was based on the
family that lived in the house and the Litttes-Martin House was also based
on the family that resided in the house. After all comments and discussion
concluded, no action was taken.
Thanks were expressed to Mr. Utter for attending today's meeting and for
his support of the Landmark Commission submitting the
survey/questionnaire to City Council.
Ms. Macon stated that at the July meeting, Mr. Gunning suggested that the
Landmark Commission request Mr. Art Sosa, Building Official, to be on the agenda
to discuss and review waivers of historical codes for the next meeting.
Ms. Macon stated she spoke with Carolyn Gignac, architect for the
renovation project of the Buddy Lawrence House, and she was not ready to do a
formal presentation to the Landmark Commission, before she meets with the
Commission, she has to meet with the Master Review Committee. Ms. Macon
continued that Ms. Gignac would be requested to also research the architectural
integrity of the house.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 6:15 p.m.
! Q L4ALi da Williams Faryce G de- , City Planner
Recording Secretary Staff Lia n to Landmark Commission