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NOVEMBER 18, 1999
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Ms. Deborah Douglas, Chairman
Mr. Alan Belcher
Ms. Sharon Brower
Mr. Michael Cleary
Ms. Lisa Garza
Mr. Mark Luddeke
Mr. Terry Orf
Mr. Elmon Phillips
Ms. Elizabeth Rentz
Mr. Tom Stewart
Ms. Bunny Tinker
MEMBERS ABSENT: Ms. Betsy Chapman (Excused)
Ms. Grandis Lenken (Excused)
Mr. Kevin Maraist (Excused)
Mr. Jerry Wagoner (Excused)
STAFF PRESENT: Mr. Michael Gunning, Director of Planning
Ms. Faryce Goode-Macon, City Planner
Mr. Tony Cisneros, Director of Park & Recreation
Mr. James Boggs, Architect, Engineering Services
Ms. Linda Williams, Recording Secretary
Mr. Tom Stewart, Acting Chairman, called the meeting to order at 4:35 p.m.
The roll was called and a quorum was declared.
ACTION ITEM(S):
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 28, 1999: The minutes were approved
as distributed. Ms. Tinker requested that the handout received from Mr.
Art Sosa, Building Official, at the October meeting, become an official
attachment to the minutes.
MASTER REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION: Before Ms. Macon began her
update, Mr. Jim Boggs, Staff Architect with City Engineering Services, and
Mr. Tony Cisneros, Director of City Parks and Recreation, were introduced
to commissioners. Ms. Macon continued that Mr. Boggs is handling the
restoration project and Mr. Cisneros is over the Heritage Park area. Ms.
Faryce Goode-Macon, Staff Liaison, provided brief background information
on the Buddy Lawrence House project. Ms. Macon stated that the City is
involved with an adaptive reuse project for the Buddy Lawrence House.
The house was donated to the City by the Javelina Plant; and was originally
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located near the plant on McBride Lane. After its adaptive reuse and
restoration, the house will be used for offices by two non-profit
organizations. The Landmark Commission has been given the charge of
reviewing and approving the architectural facade of the house based on
the Master Review Committee's recommendation. Ms. Macon continued
that Carolyn James met with the Master Review Committee earlier this
week and Ms. Bunny Tinker will submit the Committee's recommendation.
At this point, the floor was turned over to Ms. Tinker.
Ms. Bunny Tinker, Master Review Committee member, presented the
Committee's recommendation. Ms. Tinker stated the Committee met with
Carolyn James, Architect with Lignac and Associates, on Tuesday,
November 16, 1999 in the Planning Department conference room. The
purpose of the meeting was to review the proposed architectural facade
of the restoration plans for the Buddy Lawrence House. Ms. Tinker
continued that Ms. James presented two options for the committee to
review and discuss. Ms. Tinker went on to say that the architects were told
by City Staff that the house would not be restored to its original 1800
configuration, but instead be restored to a 1930 configuration. Ms. Tinker
continued that Option 1 shows the front facade of the house with a
pyramid shaped pediment as part of the roofline over a nine-paned
decorative window with four smaller panes at the bottom. Option 2 shows
the front facade of the house with its original roofline and the window Is
in conformity with the existing windows shown. Ms. Tinker continued that
after a lengthy discussion at the meeting, the vote was three (3) for Option
1 and one (1) for Option 2. The Committee's recommendation Is to
approve Option 1.
Ms. Tinker explained that she voted for Option 2 because the drawing was
more in line with the original configuration of the house since it was not
being restored to Its 1800 configuration. Ms. Tinker went on to say that
Option 1 added the decorative pediment and window which was not part
of the house and there was no need for it to be added. It did not enhance
or add to the architectural integrity of the house. Ms. Tinker continued
that enclosed sleeping porches were located on the second floor of the
house and to place the type of windows that are included in Option 1 does
not lend to the authenticity of the structure. After Ms. Tinker's
presentation, Mr. Boggs addressed the commission.
Mr. Boggs stated again that he is the project manager over the adaptive
reuse of the Buddy Lawrence House. Mr. Boggs continued that the house is
approximately 100 years old and was originally located on McBride Lane.
Mr. Lawrence was a County Commissioner for Precinct One, and as County
Commissioner, he played a vital role in getting the ship channel built, and
helped to lead the way for the first paved roads in the city. Mr. Boggs
stated it would be wonderful to be able to restore the house to its original
architectural configuration, but It was not cost effective to do so. Mr.
Boggs continued It was estimated that it would cost approximately
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$250,000 to redo the house to bring it up to today's building codes. Mr.
Boggs went on to say that he spoke with Mr. Utter at great lengths about
the project and it will be an adaptive reuse renovation instead of a true
restoration. Mr. Boggs stated that the options that are presented today
were well thought out and those columns on the front elevation were on
the original house. The columns gave the feel for what the house was like
at one time. After Mr. Boggs' comments, the floor was opened for
discussion on the two options.
Mr. Phillips asked Ms. James why weren't the shutters shown on the
drawing and Ms. James responded because of the existing columns, the
shutters were not included. Ms. James continued that one of the concerns
voiced by the Master Review Committee was that the columns were not
exposed and they wanted to add some new ones to the front of the
structure to take it back to its original character for the front. Ms. James
continued that the columns actually look like the original ones and they
were trying to use some of the elements to create a reminiscent of the
house rather than a restoration.
Ms. James continued that changes would be made to the interior of the
house simply because the configuration of several rooms were not
conducive to their office space needs. The interior will not be restored to
any original content except for one room, which will be made into a
conference room. The family donated an inscribed metal plate that will be
placed in this room.
Ms. James stated that one of the City's focuses of the house was that the
original house was board and batten siding. Although the house will not
be in Heritage Park, but on Mesquite and Resaca Streets, they want the
project to be kept in line with the style of the houses located in the park.
Mr. Orf stated that as part of the Committee's decision with regard to the
questions regarding the windows and shutters, the Committee felt that it
was apparent that the space is needed for the function that will be placed
In that room. Mr. Orf continued that if a mimic of the original flair of the
house was capture, that would put it back in some context and hopefully
later on someone will go back and reopen the porch.
Ms. Tinker stated that Option 1 refers to the peak placed on the top
portion of the roofline. Ms. Tinker continued that the Landmark
Commission is a preservation advocate and basically what the commission
has ended up with is a 1930s adaptive reuse to that house. The commission
Is not charged with creating designs to make structures look better. The
reason preservation is so important is because of what it designates -
crafts, family history, architect and/or architectural Integrity, etc. Ms.
Tinker continued that her response is where did we get off putting
something on that was never there. Ms. Tinker went on to say that when
you look at Option 2, it basically looks like the previous owner.
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Mr. Belcher asked why three members of the committee voted for Option
1 and Ms. Douglas stated the reason she voted for Option 1 was because in
the picture it looked better, but after Ms. Tinker's comments, and the logic
of what was stated, she might reconsider Option 2. Mr. Luddeke stated the
added pediment gave a focal point to the front door of the elevation. Mr.
Orf clarified that in the original drawing, it was easier to see.
Ms. James stated she provided two options because there were two
opinions. Ms. James continued she would like t0 feature one
recommendation as a whole. Ms. James went on to say if there was a
$650,000 budget to work with, the porches could be placed back, but that
Is not the case. It was also concluded that the second story addition was
not sensitive to the original part of the house. In keeping the space, an
attempt was made to re-vamp the front door and break the long look. Ms.
James continued that she will do the best to make the renovation look as
nice as possible. Ms. James went on to say that she did not feel the real
need to change the porches since it was In flavor with the original style of
the house.
Mr. Phillips stated he wanted to respond to the comments regarding the
architectural features of the house. Mr. Phillips continued that if Mr. Utter
wanted a marker for this house, more information would be needed. The
Nueces County Historical Commission usually ordered all historical markers
for the City and County. Mr. Phillips commented that the marker located
at the original site of the house does not refer to the house, but It refers
to the truck farm that was located at the site. After all comments
concluded, the following action was taken:
IT WAS MOVED BY MR. BELCHER THAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION
APPROVE OPTION 2.
MOTION DIED DUE TO LACK OF A SECOND.
After further discussion, Ms. Tinker stated a motion was not necessary since
it was a committee recommendation - all the Commission had to do is
accept the recommendation. Ms. Macon asked Ms. James if she needed the
Commission to take a formal vote on the recommendation and Ms. James
stated she would prefer to have a vote. The following action was taken:
IT WAS MOVED BY MR. BELCHER AND SECONDED BY MR. PHILLIPS
THAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION ACCEPT AND APPROVE OPTION 2
FOR THE ADAPTIVE REUSE RENOVATION PROJECT FOR THE BUDDY
LAWRENCE HOUSE.
MOTION PASSED.
Thanks were expressed to Ms. James for attending today's meeting and the
Commission looked forward to the completion of the renovation project
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on the Buddy Lawrence House. Ms. James stated she would go back and
redo the renderings based on the action taken at today's meeting.
DISCUSSION ITEM(S):
GOLD STAR COURT UPDATE: Ms. Macon presented the drawing that Park and
Recreation staff used for the preliminary plan for the restoration of the
Gold Star Court. Ms. Macon continued that the first plan presented to the
Landmark Commission was the one that was approved with the hand-
drawn sketch provided by the Gold Star Court Committee. The second
page is the plan drawn by Park and Recreation staff that incorporates the
same improvements as outlined in the hand drawn plan, in addition it also
shows the permanently embedded markers.
Ms. Tinker requested that the original plan approved by the Landmark
Commission be stamped with the "Certificate of Appropriateness" stamp.
Mr. Phillips stated that the plans show the original layout of the court In
1930 except for the star and he wanted to know why the star cannot be
put back. Ms. Macon stated she spoke with Mike Gordon and was told that
they were looking at putting something of a facsimile of the original star,
but no final decision had been made. Ms. Macon continued that It was
suggested that a plaque be placed where the star was originally located
with an Inscription stating this was the original location of the lighted star.
Ms. Macon continued that Mr. Leland Johnson is no longer a member of the
Gold Star Court Committee and he was one of the key members
responsible for getting this project going.
Ms. Tinker asked if It was true that California Palm trees were being planted
instead of the Crape Myrtle trees and Mr. Cisneros answered that the
plantings have not been completed. A question was also asked if the
granite marker would have the names of soldiers that were included in the
original memorial since it was difficult to climb to the top of the bluff area
and Mr. Cisneros answered that the request will be accommodated.
Ms. Tinker asked If the round light poles were changed and Mr. Cisneros
answered that no new light poles were being added. After a brief
discussion, a suggestion was made to substitute the site plan drawn by Park
and Recreation staff and stamp it with the "Certificate of Appropriateness"
stamp instead of the hand drawn plan originally submitted by the Gold Star
Court Committee, even though the hand drawn plan was submitted to the
Texas Historical Commission. It was also suggested that the new flagpole
be removed. After all comments concluded, the following action was
taken:
IT WAS MOVED BY MS. TINKER AND SECONDED BY MR. PHILLIPS THAT
THE SITE PLAN DRAWN BY PARK AND RECREATION STAFF BE
STAMPED WITH THE "CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS" STAMP
INSTEAD OF THE HAND DRAWN SITE PLAN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED
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BY THE GOLD STAR COURT AND THAT THE NEW FLAG POLE BE
REMOVED FROM THE EVENT AREA.
MOTION PASSED.
RESULTS OF FINANCIAL INCENTIVES SURVEY: Ms. Macon stated that in October,
the Financial Incentive Committee sent a survey to City Council members to
be completed and returned by October 15, 1999. As a result, one survey
was returned by the requested date. Commission members were asked at
the October 28, 1999 meeting to contact their council representative and
request them to complete and return the survey. As a result of this effort,
two more surveys were completed and returned. Ms. Macon
recommended further follow-up be made by commissioners who were
unsuccessful in contacting their council representative and hopefully a
response will be received before the January 2000 meeting.
Ms. Macon stated that today's meeting was the last one for 1999 and the
next regularly scheduled meeting will be January 27, 2000. Ms. Macon continued
that by the next meeting, the historical plaques should be received and also work
can commence on the historical tour brochure for completion.
Ms. Macon shared with commissioners that today's meeting was the last
meeting for Ms. Tinker. Thanks were expressed to Ms. Tinker for her commitment
to preservation and all of the hard work that she has done.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 5:40 p.m.
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