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Minutes of the Mechanical/Plumbing Advisory Board
Regular Meeting RECEIVED
Thursday, February 12,2009 at 2 p.m.
Fire Department Training Room AUG 1 7 2009
3rd Floor, Frost Bank Building
2406 Leopard,Corpus Christi, Texas CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE
I. Call to Order
Meeting was called to order at 2:05 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Board members present include: James Horman, Mike Wanzer, Scott Corliss, Ray
Johnson, James Dildy, Bob Hughes, Sean Rodriguez and Robert Pate
Board members absent: Everest Huerta, Bud O'Bryan, and Robert Sells
City staff present include: Joe Elliot, James Pendleton and Catherine Mireles
III. Approval of Minutes
Mr. Johnson made the first motion to accept both minutes from December 18th, 2008 and
January 8th, 2009, seconded by Mr. Wanzer. Motion carried unanimously.
IV. Review, Discuss, and Act as Appropriate on the 2006 International Plumbing Code,
International Mechanical Code, International Fuel/Gas Code, International Energy Code,
International Residential Code, and Local Amendments
D Mr. Corliss confirmed that the Board has completed this agenda item.
D Mr. Elliot stated that Mr. Reining is currently working on the codes and in May or
June they will be presented to City Council. He also hopes that a rough draft will
be provided to the Board next month for review and modifications.
V. Review Candidates' Resumes for New Board Members and Make a Determination on
Submittal of any Recommendations to City Council
D Mr. Elliot went on to discuss Board vacancies, expirations and reappointments.
He felt that at this time the Board should not take any action on this item until all
applications, bio's and recommendations were turned in, then at that point they
would make decisions to submit to City Council.
The Board returned to Item IV of the agenda to discuss a tabled item from the last
scheduled meeting regarding Atmospheric Vacuum Breakers (in the style of Rainbirds
that are sold in DIY stores).
D Mr. Johnson is under the assumption that that these devices are not up to code or
not allowed to be used in the City of Corpus Christi and that Sec. P2902.5.3 (IRC)
is reverting back to allowing them. Mr. Johnson feels that all sprinkler systems
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Regular Meeting
February 12,2009
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should have a testable backflow prevention device and AVB's should not be
allowed on a lawn sprinkler system.
> Mr. Elliott said that he does not see anything in the code were it specifically
prohibits the use of these devices. Mr. Elliot stated that an A VB is not a testable
device by industry standards,you can not hook it up to a gauge.
Staffs recommendation is for Sec. P2902.5.3:Lawn Irrigation Systems in IRC to be
read as: "The potable water system to lawn irrigation systems shall be protected
against backflow by a pressure type vacuum breaker (PVB) or reduced pressure
principle backflow preventer; where chemicals are introduced into the potable water
supply shall be protected against backflow by a reduced pressure principle backflow
preventer." Therefore making the vacuum valves mentioned the only types
approved for irrigation and omitting "atmospheric vacuum breaker" and the
sentence: "A valve shall not be installed downstream from an atmospheric vacuum
breaker (AVB)". Mr. Johnson made the first motion to support City Staff's
recommendation,seconded by Mr. Hughes. Motion carried unanimously.
> Mr. Rodriguez questioned if this recommendation needs to also be considered for
the IPC which opened up other topics for debate regarding City Staffs
interpretation of what constitutes a lawn sprinkler system verses drip emitters and
what approved means of backflow prevention will be allowed.
> Mr. Johnson suggests making the same changes to the IPC, Sec. 608.16.5:
Connections to the Lawn Irrigation Systems.
> Mr. Corliss stated that the action taken above regarding Sec. P2902.5.3 has a
direct affect on irrigation systems whether it is a drip emitter or lawn sprinkler
system.
> Mr. Pendleton believes that a drip emitter would be considered a type of
irrigation.
➢ Mr. Elliot suggests looking up the definition of Irrigation System under TCEQ for
some clarification before proceeding with the next action to be taken.
➢ Mr. Pendleton reads the definition from TCEQ under Title 30, Chapter 344:
"Irrigation System is an assembly of component parts that is permanently
installed for the control, distribution and conservation of water to irrigate any
type of landscape, vegetation in any location and or to reduce dust or control
erosion." Once the board was provided this definition, it was agreed upon that
the term "permanently installed" was the determining factor of what action to
take regarding the IPC.
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> Mr. Pendleton does not oppose to amending Sec.608.16.5 of the IPC.
Mr. Johnson made the first motion for Sec. 608.16.5 of the IPC to mimic Sec.
P2902.5.3 of the IRC (action taken above) and Mr. Dildy seconds. Motion carried
unanimously.
VI. Identify Items to be Place on Next Agenda
Approval of Special Meeting Minutes: December 12, 2008&January 20, 2009
Approval of Regular Meeting Minutes: February 12, 2009
VII. Building Official Report: Department Update
Building official was not present so Mr. Elliot gave the department update regarding the
Backflow department. Mr. Elliott explained that two notices are sent to individuals who
own backflow preventers that require testing. If the individual fails to comply with the
testing then they are forwarded to the Environmental Municipal Court. Mr. Pendleton
has been going to the Environmental Municipal Court for the past several weeks every
Monday. Individuals can assess up to $300 in fines plus court costs and if they do not
appear at their scheduled court date then a warrant can be issued for their arrest. Mr.
Elliott wanted to make aware to the board that backflow testers carry the responsibility
of getting test reports to us in a certain amount of time so that those notices do not get
sent out to the owners.
VIII. Public Comments
Board members may not deliberate or make a decision on any matter presented at this
time. The Open Meetings Act limits Board response to only two options: 1) a statement
of specific factual information given in response to an inquiry; or 2) a recitation of
existing policy in response to the inquiry. Any deliberation of or decision about the
subject shall be limited to a proposal to place the subject on the agenda for a subsequent
meeting.
No one addressed the board during open forum.
IX. Adjourn
Meeting was adjourned at 5 p.m.
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