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TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMI'1'1'EE
MINUTES*
JUNE 24, 1993
(*These minutes reflect the meeting that was held by the Transportation Advisory
Committee prior to the joint meeting with the Water/Shore Advisory Committee. Minutes
of the joint meeting are also attached.)
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Barry Pillinger, Chairperson, called the meeting to order at 2:05 p.m. (No
absences will be recorded because meeting is not being held on regularly scheduled
date.)
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the May 28, 1993 meeting were approved by the Committee without any
changes.
III. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
W. CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S REPORT
Mr. David Seiler indicated for clarity that this meeting was taking the place of the
regularly scheduled meeting on June 28 and any absences from today's meeting will
not be classified as absences.
In response to the Committee's interest regarding the Water Street pedestrian
accident,the Traffic Engineering staff has met with the management of the Shoreline
Terrace Building. There have been some improvements in the area regarding
painting of curb area to increase the sight distance. The pedestrian crosswalk was
repainted for increased visibility. A study was also completed regarding the
motorists behavior in that area. There is a long gap between the Water/Kinney
signalized intersection (heading in the southbound direction of travel), and no stops
going all the way into the Shoreline Terrace Building towards Furman Avenue.
There is potential complacency created on the part of the driver/motorist driving in
that direction, and no real alert factor involved in terms of coming to a stop at a stop
sign or a crosswalk on a typical basis. Traffic Engineering is planning installation of
flashing/blinkingsignalization at the Water/Park intersection which should have some
positive effect on whatever speeding may be taking place on Water Street and also
to draw more of a sense of caution to motorists that are traveling in that southbound
direction on Water Street. This has been reported to the Shoreline Terrace
management. This is a project that is probably several months away but it is
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something that we do have in our plans at this point. Mr. Pillinger asked what is the
signal going to consist of--four-way flashing red? Mr. Seiler confirmed plans to use
four-way stop with overhead flashing signals. Mr. PiRinger inquired about signals on
Water Street at night defaulting to flashing yellow? Mr. Seller stated that at some
intersections they do default to flashing but at others we have all-way stop. There
is a long stretch between Water/Kinney and Water/Park, it's close to 1/4-mile in
terms of distance and we feel that this would be the best method of control.
Another item mentioned by Mr. Seiler was that we will be receiving responses on our
'Request for Proposal' on the southside study on July 9th. We are pretty close to
the point in time that we will be short listing a consultant for that study. This is the
southside MPO study that the Transportation Advisory Committee has had quite a
bit of involvement.
Regarding some information that has been reported,more less sensationalized in the
Caller-Times regarding the difference in statistics on what we have reported to the
Transportation Advisory Committee in the way drug and alcohol-related traffic
accidents and those records that are maintained by the Police Department. Mr.
Seller stated that the information that has been reported to the Transportation
Advisory Committee is 100% accurate,based on the first accident report information
received from the Police Department. Traffic Engineering is now with the
understanding that quite a bit of follow-up information by the Police Department.
In some cases, changes in those statistics on the Police Traffic Accident Report
which at this point in time,we had not previously been the recipient. In essence,the
information the Police Department has been reporting is certainly accurate. Bottom
line on this is that Traffic Engineering and the Police Department are going to work
closely together on this to make sure that we have a 'hand-shake' type of
communication on this report. Captain Byrd has a sample of the traffic accident
report with that information coded that she will pass around to you. There is a
particular category used to determine that information without having to read
through the traffic accident report. There is a check-off list that indicates if the
traffic accident was alcohol-related or not, whether there is some possibility that it
was and then based on the follow-up investigation, sometimes that information is
deleted in follow-up by the Police Department after it is determined not to be an
alcohol-related or drug-related accident.
Mr. DeVille asked Captain Byrd how much time lapses between the first report to
Traffic Engineering and the follow-up report. (Due to the fact that Captain Byrd
was speaking from the audience and not into a microphone, the recorder did not
pick up Captain Byrd's response.) Mr. Seiler stated Traffic Engineering's intention
from this point forward is to not report the information until we have gotten the
follow-up report from the Police Department. (Recorder did not pick up Captain
Byrd's response.)
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Mr. DeVille commented that we make decisions on false information or we could
make decisions on false information. (Again, recorder did not pick up response by
Captain Byrd.) Mr. DeVille stated that it would always be adjusted down and this
is a concern to him.
Mr. Seiler stated that with approximately 9,000 traffic accidents a year, there is going
to be some error and we have to do the best we can to provide the most accurate
information to the Committee, particularly in those things that decisions are being
based. Traffic Engineering will do its best to improve statistical information with the
Police Department, particularly in those things that we report to the Committee.
Another item that Mr. Seiler mentioned the status of several items that had
previously approved by the Transportation Advisory Committee.Traffic Engineering
is in the process of resubmitting that information in the new City Council format that
was developed months ago in terms of an agenda item.
V. TRAFFIC FATALITY REPORT (Attachment "A")
Captain Byrd reported that the City had recorded the sixth and seventh fatalities of
the year. She gave details of the two fatality accidents as was reported on the
handout to the Committee (copy attached). Our alcohol-related fatalities for the
year stand at 43%. One death of the seven was totally drug-related. At the same
time last year, we had eleven fatalities. DWI arrests stand 560 people so far this
year. This time last year, we had arrested 559.
Mr. Braselton asked about article in paper recently about revocation of driver
license, has this bill passed? It is a state law. Mr. Pillinger stated that it is not an
automatic revocation,it provides for a hearing for that. Captain Byrd stated that she
was not familiar with the bill. Mr. Pillinger stated that Governor Richards had just
signed it a couple of days ago and it is not administrative revocation on the scene but
it provides for a hearing. Mr. Pillinger didn't know what the effective date of the bill
is.
Captain Byrd stated that the Corpus Christi Police Department separates alcohol-
related and drug-related accidents. The State of Texas does not separate and she
didn't know whether Traffic Engineering's Tracer traffic accident computer program
does or not. Mr. Seiler stated that we can separate these accidents if the Committee
wishes to have it just alcohol-related. Mr. DeVille asked if it wouldn't be deceiving
that way. Mr. Seiler responded that both categories could be distinguished.
Captain Byrd then explained the Police Department's Traffic Accident Report(copy
passed out to the Committee members). She went over this one particular report
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referring to part on back of report officers are required to check factors and
conditions listed, in this investigator's opinion. Then it says factors and conditions
contributing. Another box asks other conditions or factors which may or may not
have contributed. The officer says anybody out at 3 a.m. that runs a stop sign and
goes into a ditch is drunk, so that's the code they put in box. On review for this type
of accident report, where we have no evidence of alcohol involvement,we just have
a wreck scene and that's it, we do not count this as alcohol-related accident. The
Tracer program does because the clerk looks at these numbers and that's what they
record. The consistency in our records is that the same person is reviewing all of
these reports. All of these reports come through and the same standards are
applied. When we count them we consider whether the alcohol contributed to the
accident, and that is the key word and the consistency factor when we look at these
reports. We still don't know who the driver was, we don't know whether he was
drunk or not, whether he was just going to fast on neighborhood street, didn't know
where he was. We don't know what the circumstance was. It is more truthful to call
it alcohol-related or drug-related. It is an assumption and we don't count the
assumptions.
On the other part, if they had been drinking and we know, we report it as alcohol-
related, even though they may not be drunk or they may not be arrested for DWI.
But if they had been drinking and this surfaces as part of the investigation, we
include it. The officer is asked to put down his opinion when he fills out the report,
so what we are counting is someone opinion. The Caller-Times reported one of the
eschewed stats too but when you look at the stats overall, they aren't that different.
The State hasn't upgraded their software recently, they are still using software that
doesn't have all of these factors and conditions to report, they count them all as
drug-related. Captain Byrd replied that you can depend on stats but anybody who
works with stats knows that you have to look at them with a critical eye.
VI. MONTHLY TRAFFIC ACCIDENT EXPERIENCE REPORT
Mr. Seiler reported 734 total traffic accidents during May as compared to same time
last year, it is barely significant increase of 1/2 of 1% increase. The alcohol/drug-
related accidents those that we received and which we do not have follow-up reports
on shows 45 occurring during May as compared to same time last year, shows 36%
increase. Injury accidents totaling 1,223 to date, compared to same time last year,
our experience is down 2.6%. Total injuries not really shown as an increase or
decrease statistic. There is 439 during May, giving a total of 1,982, that's less than
a 1% increase compared to the same time last year. We would like to make some
specific references to our top 27 high accident locations through May 1993 (second
page of report). Everhart and S.H. 358 access road/frontage road system, there are
ten accidents which is quite a large number. Statistical breakdown is shown on the
bottom of page somewhat scattered by type of accidents, by frontage road location.
Biggest category is rear-end collisions. The next highest total for the month was
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eight traffic accidents at the Weber/SPID intersection and again, statistics are shown
on bottom of page. Mr. Seiler referenced two locations, #11 David and Segrest
which is not a signalized intersection. It is an intersection but the traffic accident
reports report that the traffic accidents that are occurring at that location which is
the one on the southbound Crosstown Expressway frontage road between Baldwin
and Morgan coming from the direction of Morgan where the exit ramp precedes the
on ramp. There is a sight distance problem and those accidents are primarily related
to traffic on the frontage road failing to yield to the exit ramp. These accidents are
not actually involving traffic turning from Segrest,which is a residential street. Also
Interstate 37 and Lantana, this is one that we probably need to take off our report.
Those are actually expressway/main lane accidents. They occur on Interstate 37
where Padre Island Drive northbound merges in with the westbound Interstate 37
main lanes. They do not involve Lantana Street traffic and therefore it is not an
intersection. The type of accident that is occurring is primarily out of control
accidents in the curve area where Padre Island Drive is merging with Interstate 37
westbound and also collisions where the merge actually takes place with the
westbound traffic intersecting with traffic from northbound S.H. 358. (One of the
committee members asked question but could not be heard on recorder). Mr. Seiler
response to this question was some of those accidents are actually double turned,
side-swiped collisions with the two vehicles colliding with each other even though
they are in separate marked lanes. In closing, at Everhart and South Padre Island
Drive, we have a tendency to think these accidents are occurring during peak hour
traffic. Strangely enough, most of the accidents are occur at Padre Island Drive
intersections are not peak hour traffic related. Only one of the 10 traffic accidents
has occurred during the traditional 7 to 9, 4 to 6 or 12 to 1 peak hours. Most of
them occurred during the week day, during off peak hours. There were some on
Saturday and Sunday where the peak hours are more or less from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m.
But most of these accidents are non-peak hour traffic related accidents.
Mr. Braselton commented that all of sudden Gollihar and Staples have jumped up
two months in row. There was nothing going on there that he could think of. Asked
what kind of accidents are happening there. Mr. Seiler did not have breakdown of
kinds of accidents at that intersection stating that we need to be very specific on is
that alienation between the two Gollihar and Staples intersections. We have two,
one Gollihar and Staples and one Gollihar and Staples at Autotown. Itmightbe
some reporting of both of those into one intersection. I'm not saying that's what the
case is here but before I can answer your questions I'll have to check and will report
back next month.
VII. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Jogging and bicycling special events across the Corpus Christi Ship Channel,
Harbor Bridge and other controlled access roadways in Corpus Christi. Mr.
Pillinger stated that the committee didn't have any advance information on
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this item. Mr. Seiler referred to Captain Byrd, and only lead in by saying
there is a growing number of special events that we have permitted to Harbor
Bridge to be used by bicyclists,joggers. It is becoming an increasing concern
to the City because of the difficulty in providing traffic control assistance and
traffic enforcement. There are also dangers and hazards involved. Staff has
no recommendation at this meeting but wanted to leave a 'bug in your ear'
per se in the way of discussion, talking about some of the things seen as
problems in continuing to permit those type of things over the Harbor Bridge
and that we will soon be coming to the Transportation Advisory Committee
in the way of a recommendation to take to the City Council.
Captain Byrd showed a video tape of the recent bicycle ride advertised as a
Fun Ride which started at convention center and went across the Harbor
Bridge all the way around the bay back across the JFK Causeway, through the
Naval Air Station and back to the convention center. Video taped were some
of the problems that are encountered. (Video tape was shown, Captain Byrd
made comments but was out of microphone distance.)
Mr. Pillinger asked if item could be held as a discussion item because of
shortness of time before joint meeting.
B. Discussion of previously recommended speed limit reduction on South
Alameda Street between Louisiana Parkway and Six Points(Attachment"C").
Mr. Pillinger stated that the committee was aware of the speed limit reduction
on South Alameda that we reviewed last time and if you read Mr. Seiler's
memo, Committee members may wish to comment. Mr. Seiler indicated that
the Committee may not have understood the signalization impact there. Mr.
PiRinger asked for any input from committee. Mr. DeVille asked if it could
be tabled until the next meeting. Mr. Pillinger stated that it couldn't because
it is pending City Council action. Mr. Braselton indicated that his vote
wouldn't change. Mr. Pillinger stated that if Mr. DeVille wanted to make a
motion to table and if we get a seconded that will happen. Mr. PiRinger then
asked for a 'straw'vote to see where anybody wants to change their vote from
the previous meeting. If there is no indication, Mr. Pillinger asked for a
motion to that effect so that we have some official action by the Board. Mr.
DeVille made motion that previous vote on this matter be maintained. Mr.
Braselton seconded the motion. Vote was unanimous with Mr. Len Brandrup
abstained from the vote.
C. Information regarding the proposed horse drawn carriage (shuttle) service
within the Corpus Christi Beach area. Mr. Seiler presented information to
the Transportation Advisory Committee on matters regarding the vehicles for
hire which are areas not under the review of the City Council,but nonetheless
there have been some traffic safety analyses and I would like Mr. Willie
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Medina from the Engineering Services Department that handles vehicles for
hire to make a brief comment regarding the proposed horse drawn carriage
(shuttle) service on Corpus Christi Beach.
Mr. Medina stated that on Tuesday (June 29) Mr. Bob Braun is proposing to
operate a new carriage shuttle service in the North Beach area. He wants to
offer a shuttle service between the parking lots and the Texas State Aquarium
and the USS Lexington. Based on recommendations from Traffic
Engineering and the Animal Advisory Board, we are approving his going
before the City Council to have his permit approved under the conditions we
received from Traffic Engineering of two specific routes, one primary route
and one secondary route he will be allowed to travel. His service will be
restricted to the North Beach area and he is proposing to operate Monday
through Sunday from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. The carriages have a capacity of 25
passengers and he will charge $1.00 per person.
The City permits another horse-drawn carriage company that operates strictly
in the downtown area. The permit will be awarded for three years and he will
be restricted to the North Beach area. If the applicant proposes to operate
outside the North Beach area, he will have to come back to the City to have
a special permit approved. He had originally requested to operate in the
downtown area but his carriages are pretty good size and we felt at this time
we wanted to give him the primary route and the secondary route is more of
an experimental route to see how it works out. He will operate in June, July
August and September. He has received permission from one of the.
properties in Rincon Industrial Park to provide portable stables for his horses.
Mr. Len Brandrup asked if he is aware of the Aquarium's request and the
RTA board's purchase of the tram that is going to be operating there on
almost an identical route. Mr. Medina responded that Mr. Braun was aware
of this but he feels he has a little extra to offer in regards to the horses and
carriage. This is why he was proposing the secondary route which will run
along Surfside. Mr. Brandrup stated that the Tide does that and where he is
proposing twice a day, the current Tide that is currently operated by the RTA
does that hourly. You may want to let him know that this is a duplicate of
services that is being operated by the RTA so that he is not surprised. Mr.
Braun has been made aware of the RTA shuttle service.
VIII. RECOGNITION OF AUDIENCE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND
CONCERNS. No comments were made.
IX. ACTION ON ABSENT MEMBERS FROM MAY 1993 MEETING. Mr. PiRinger
asked for motion to excuse the absences of Mr. Hecht and Mr. Routh from the May
meeting. Mr. Braselton made motion and Mr. DeVille seconded.
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XI. NEW CONCERNS. Mr. PiRinger dispensed with this due to the meeting running
late for the joint meeting with the Water/Shore Advisory Committee.
XII. RECESS. Mr. Pillinger recessed this meeting at 3:05 p.m. and the committee will
reconvene for joint meeting with Water/Shore Advisory Committee.
XIII. JOINT MEETING WITH THE WATER/SHORE ADVISORY COMM A:FEE
Dune Protection and Beach Access Plan: Mr. Brandol Harvey, Director of Planning
and Development, gave a brief overview of the draft Dune Protection and Beach
Access Plan prepared by City Staff. Mr. David Seiler, City Traffic Engineer,
presented the Vehicular Control element contained within the Plan. Both the
Water/Shore and Transportation Advisory Committees have advisory jurisdiction over
these elements.
Mr. Seiler first clarified that the Transportation Advisory Committee was being
requested to address only the portion of the Dune Protection and Beach Access Plan
within the Committee's area of purview--naming the Vehicular Control Plan element
of the overall plan and associated Traffic Section of the Dune Protection and Beach
Access Ordinance (Regulations). Mr. Seiler then explained specific elements that
the Vehicular Control Plan of the Dune Protection and Beach Access Plan must
address since the City is proposing new and amended vehicular controls for the gulf
beach section within the city limits and then addressed in detail each Vehicular
Control Plan element. The focus of the staff presentation was on the proposed
prohibition of traffic from the Gulf Beach seawall area and designation of off-beach
parking on Windward Drive and associated public pedestrian access ways between
Windward Drive and the Gulf Beach seawall.
Mr. Tom Utter provided clarification on certain other issues, including explanation
that Beach Access Road #3-A is presently a privately owned easement to Nueces
County which the City must obtain in the way of a conveyance as it is critical to the
City's traffic routing from the beach to Windward Drive, as well as serving as a
public access way conforming to the GLO's 1/2-mile spacing criteria for public access
ways. Mr. Utter also clarified the City's position on the'need to require beach
parking permits for parking along Windward Drive related to this street serving as
an area for beach parking.
The respective Committees' then opened the meeting to public comment:
° Elizabeth Walker, President of Padre Isles Property Owners' Association,
stated their Board has agreed to donate the two easements to the City so that
we can have public access to the beach for the safety of the public who use
the beach in front of the seawall.
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o . Tom Reeves, General Manager of Holiday Inn on Padre Island, commented
that the plan is pretty self-explanatory and wanted to state that this is in no
way by the property owners, as has been speculated, to privatize this area. It
is strictly for safety and safety only.
o Joseph Farrah,Padre Island businessman and member of Padre Isles Business
Association, stated seeing this as an attempt to privatize the beach and is a
denial of the public's right to use the beach.
o Marie Speer, 909 Red Start, stated that Mr. Farrah's comment was right in
one aspect. Public conception is going to be that this is going to give a 'foot
in the door' for the property owners to privatize the beach.
• David Coggins, representative of Padre Isles Business Association,
commented that visitors want a 'safe beach' and traffic conflicts bother
tourists.
Following the presentations, questions and answers by Committee members and
hearing from the public, the Water/Shore Advisory Committee opted to delay action
until their regularly scheduled July 1st meeting when they would take action on all
elements of the plan. The Transportation Advisory Committee elected to take action
on the plan. Motion was presented by Mr. Len Brandrup and seconded by Mr. Fred
Braselton to approve the Vehicular Control Plan and Traffic Section (Appendix A
of Vehicular Control Plan) of the Dune Protection and Beach Access Ordinance
subject to clarification being provided within the text of the Vehicular Control Plan
on certain definitions of terms, and clarification of other specific elements (i.e.,
pedestrian access easements providing direct barrier free access to the Gulf Beach
seawall rather than directly to the beach, traffic restrictions applicable to beach area
within the city limits south of the Gulf Beach seawall). Mr. Pillinger called for a
vote of the Transportation Advisory Committee. Vote was all in favor of motion
with Mr. Walter DeVille abstaining.
IX. ADJOURNMENT. There being no further business for the Transportation Advisory
Committee, the Transportation Advisory Committee adjourned at 5:45 p.m.
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