HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Watershore And Beach Advisory Committee - 02/07/2002 Minutes
Regular Meeting
Water/Shore Advisory Committee Meeting
Thursday, February 7, 2002
Members Present: Tom Anderson, Frank Beck, Alan Dinn (Chairman), Dr. Oscar
Garcia (2), Dan Leyendecker(1), Dr. JoAnna Mott (1), Terri Nicolau (1) and Roy Pell
Members Absent: Steve Moody (Vice Chairman) (4)
Staff Present: George Noe, Deputy City Manager, Marco A. Cisneros, Director of Park
and Recreation, David Ondrias, Assistant Director for Operations, Peter M. Davidson,
Marina Superintendent, Benita Brunner, Management Aide
Call to Order: Chairman Dinn called the regular meeting of the Water/Shore Advisory
Committee to order at 5:30 p.m. in the Basement Training Room, City Hall and the
Pledge Allegiance was recited.
Action on Minutes: The motion was made by Mr. Beck, seconded by Dr. Garcia, to
approve the January 3, 2002 and January 9, 2002 Minutes as presented. The motion
passed unanimously.
Presentations and/or Public Comment: Larry Jones of the City/County Health
Department distributed information regarding water samples performed periodically by
the department at various sights from Corpus Christi Beach to the JFK Causeway. He
reported the testing procedures would soon change to be in compliance with TNRCC
guidelines. Using annual readings from 2001 as the example, he indicated re-testing was
required at the McGee Beach/Furman and Marina T-Head sights as a result of repeated
incidents of high readings in those locations. In response to questioning, Mr. Jones
reported the highest reading that occurred in November 2001 was at the T-Head location
and that the reading could have resulted from the direct overboard discharge of a marine
toilet. Discussions followed regarding Stormwater discharge locations, the Wastewater
system being separate from the Stormwater system and methods for funding water-
sampling studies.
Leon Loeb representing the South Wharf Project made a slide video presentation
regarding the history of bayfront development and his project's concept. The proposed
location is on the bayfront in the south basin adjacent to the McGee Beach Concession
Stand. The project proposes to provide four acres of new land enclosed by a seawall
extension (fourteen foot elevation), a pedestrian environment, approximately 160,000
square feet of mixed-use of buildings, one four-story, subsurface parking area for tenants
(using lots at the Coliseum for additional parking; the project could include boat slips,
small boat rentals, live aboard boat slips, apartments/condos, a bed and breakfast, a junior
sailing center, beach rentals, restrooms, bait stand, food/drink concessions, day markets,
public safety kiosks, retail sales, office space, cruising center, parking, etc.). Mr. Loeb
indicated his interest in obtaining ideas from the public through making the presentation
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around town and stated many ideas had already been incorporated into the project. Mr.
Loeb requested the Committee's endorsement of the project for which a definitive
agreement is currently being negotiated with the City. Those representing the project are
requesting a forty-year lease with two additional ten year options to continue a
public/private venture that will pay for all construction, seawall restoration within project
boundaries, pay annual rent and pay taxes on all improvements. Discussions followed
regarding market research; unimpeded pedestrian access; project timeline; the project
being independent of and an enhancement to other plans for the Marina; environmental
concerns, disrupting the view of the water; and enhancing/abandoning in place the
existing seawall within the project area. The motion was made by Dr. Garcia, seconded
by Mr. Pell, to instruct City Staff to continue working with Mr. Loeb toward making the
South Wharf Project happen. The motion passed unanimously.
Andy Ficken commented that a marina should be dedicated to boaters; related parking
concerns; and commented in opposition to locating additional restaurants on the
Lawrence Street T-Head. Ron Chiles supported Mr. Ficken's comments and suggested
the North Beach area be considered for locating additional restaurants. Brenda Duggins
supported Mr. Ficken's and Mr. Chiles' comments; commented that her experience
during her sailing travels has been that live aboards are not looked favorably upon; and
inquired whether amenities are planned to accommodate larger vessels. Robert Kingman
supported previous comments and commented that marina staff should handle marina
policies and enforcement. William Walton supported previous comments; distributed his
written comments (copy attached); commented that Landry's appears to be the worst
proposal; and indicated his intent to leave the Marina if the development occurs. Jeff
Cantwell, Vice President of Landry's Restaurant, distributed a handout regarding the
Landry's proposal and offered to answer questions. Joe McComb commented about the
need for having and following a master plan such as the one discussed in 1999 for
Shoreline Boulevard. Jerry Vaughn read a letter in opposition to Landry's taking over
the Marina. Frank Hankins commented on the history of bayfront development and
commented about there being opposition to the South Wharf Project and its disrupting the
view of the city from the water as well the view of the water from the city. Mike
McCutchon stated the Landry's proposal seemed to be geared to marina development to
the exclusion of boats; that the development has the potential to lose opportunities for
major sailing events to occur locally; and commented about the need to develop the
marina instead of giving it to a non-boating interest. Sheldon Schroeder indicated no
option to the South Wharf project and strongly supported the use of a master plan to
address marina development and parking concerns. Terry Bernal commented in
opposition to locating additional restaurants to the Peoples Street T-Head. James Dinn
commented regarding the preciousness of water inside the seawall (east of the Lawrence
Street and Peoples Street T-Heads) which is used as sailing areas for small boats when
winds are high. Mark Lee Alexander Mahoney complained about being threatened with
arrest and not being allowed to walk around or to conduct business in the Marina.
Chairman Dinn suggested that Mr. Mahoney discuss the matter with Mr. Davidson.
Maxine Smith commented that tourists are interested in viewing the beauty of the
bayfront. Johnny French commented that whether it will be possible to obtain a 10404
Permit from the Corps of Engineers should be investigated before further investment of
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time and money with regard to the South Wharf Project. Ruben Welch commented that
the three plans should be disposed of because they have no consideration to boaters
needs.
Discussion Items: Stay Aboard Permit Procedure — Mr. Davidson commented that the
revisions, indicated in red, were further adjusted to include the Committee's input at the
January 2002 meeting. Discussion followed regarding allowing bonafide transient
vessels a one-time permit for a maximum period of sixty days without having to vacate
the vessel; when permits are required to be presented; Marina Staff being available
24/7/365 via cellular phone; the establishment of a new permit issue procedure; and
changing the section titled "prohibition again live aboards" to "policy for regulating
transient watercraft". The motion was made by Mr. Pell, seconded by Ms. Nicolau, to
adjust wording throughout the revision to reflect the authorization for transient boaters to
obtain one permit not to exceed sixty days in a six-month period. Discussion followed
regarding the current policies regarding transient stay aboards; the current policy
allowing use outside the existing Ordinance; and those Ordinance revisions will go before
the City Council. The motion was made by Mr. Anderson, seconded by Mr. Pell, to table
the matter untilthe next meeting. The motion passed with Ms. Nicolau in opposition.
Marina R.F.P. — Chairman Dinn entertained adoption of Landry's proposal with
stipulations. The motion was made by Mr. Pell, seconded by Mr. Anderson, to accept
Landry's proposal with the stipulations that development of the Marina occur on the
People's Street T-Head, that it be limited to no more than two additional restaurants, and
that Landry's be required to expand marina services on the Coopers Alley L-Head to
include covered slips and expanded repair facilities. Discussion followed regarding
additional restrooms; the possibility for moving some floating piers to the Peoples Street
T-Head, moving Landry's from Peoples Street into the area vacated by the relocated
floating piers which could relieve parking concerns for the cost of additional pilings;
moving the Marina offices to the Haulout Facility to further relieve parking concerns; the
lack of public support for Landry's proposal; the need for additional information before
the Committee can determine a recommendation; and the project time table. Mr. Noe
responded to questioning that the Committee has three opportunities for input with regard
to the project. The first is occurring at this time, the second when the City/developer
determinate specifics and the third when the specifics are again considered by advisory
boards prior to going to the City Council. He added that the Committee's comments
would be made known to the City Council after each of the three stages. Mr. Noe stated
he has received positive feedback regarding the proposal. Discussion continued. Mr.
Cisneros commented regarding the schedule being changed so the City Council will
receive the project presentation on March 19, 2002 in a public hearing format.
Discussion continued. The motion was made by Ms. Nicolau, seconded by Dr. Garcia, to
table the matter until the next Committee meeting. The motion passed with Mr.
Leyendecker in opposition and Mr. Beck abstaining.
Director's Report—Mr. Noe,Mr. Cisneros, Mr. Ondrias and/or Mr. Davidson reported on
or responded to questions regarding: (1) the San Antonio Boat Show; (2) dredge/spoil
being used as the City's in kind match for receiving ($1.7 Million) Grants; (3) dredging
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to first occur at the gap and then into larger boat slips; (4) postings allowed on new
bulletin boards; (5) CCYC/Bait Stand leases being handled by Legal; (6) the visiting river
barge; (7) bayfront revenues; and (8) bait stand revenues. The Committee viewed the
new Marina marketing video.
Committee Reports: None offered.
Current Concerns: None offered.
Request for Information/Agenda Items: Ms. Nicolau requested that the next agenda
include possible recommendations for a memorandum of agreement so the Committee
can consider details.
Confirmation: Next meeting date—March 7, 2002
Adjournment: As there was no further business, the mee •I: • . adjourned at 8:32 p.m.
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Peter M. Davidson
Marina Superintendent
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