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WATERSHORE AND BEACH ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
Regular Called Meeting
Thursday, May 6, 2021 5:30 pm
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Members Present Members Absent Staff Present
Terry Palmer
Larisa Ford
Lauren Williams
Meredith Darden
Philippe Tissot
Jyoti Patel
Daniel Mazoch
Mukesh Subedee
Harrison McNeil
Kevin Johnson
Darren Gurley
Martha Lawhon
I. CALL TO ORDER
Meeting called to order at 5:32 pm.
ll. ROLL CALL
The roll was called, and a quorum was present
III. EXCUSED ABSENCES: Jyoti Patel, Daniel Mazoch, Mukesh Subedee, Harrison McNeil
Philippe made a motion to excuse last month’s absence, Larissa seconded, unanimously approved. Motion
passed.
IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES
Minutes from the April 1, 2021 meeting were distributed for review. Philippe made a motion to accept the minutes,
Larisa seconded, Motion passed.
V. HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC
There were 2 people from the public who wished to give comments: Neil McQueen, from the Surfrider Foundation
wanted to relay an incident that happened recently at the jetties. He was heading out to surf and encountered a
person with a surfboard. He told the person that the area they were in next to the north Packery Channel jetty was
not a good spot because of rip currents and suggested that they move to a better location. When Neil looked
back, the person was at the end of the jetty and looked to be in trouble. He and a couple of other surfers got the
person to a safer spot at the end of the jetty and helped them toward the south jetty, where the current was
pushing them. Neil asked someone on the jetty to call the lifeguards. The lifeguards came to help but then
detached the victim’s surfboard leash, which almost led to the lifeguard and the victim being run over by the
surfboard. The victim was eventually assisted to the beach by the lifeguards and t he incident ended without
injuries. Neil had 3 comments; his first was that a lifeguard should be stationed on the jetty. He also thought that
the lifeguards needed more ocean training (more drills), and lastly that the lifeguard need to get out of the trucks!
Neil’s suggestions would be to have a lifeguard stationed on the jetty.
Kevin Johnson (assistant director) asked if there was a record of the incident that Neil was referring to? Darren
said yes. Kevin told the group that we will be working on this and if anyone has any suggestions, to please let him
know.
Neil told that the group that he had used the shower and the south side, and it was great; need one on the north
side. Cliff Schlabach spoke and basically wanted to echo what Neil said about the lifeguards, he has watched the
lifeguards and is not impressed with the program; it needs to be improved! Cliff also is excited about the showers
and he hopes Darren will report on the progress on the shower on the north side.
Vl. BUSINESS FOR DISCUSSION/POSSIBLE ACTION
1. New Business
a. Je’Sani Smith Foundation presentation
This committee is not sure who was going to set this up, Philippe attends some of their meetings and will check
with them. Philippe did report that at their meetings, they are discussing broadening their message in the
community and outside it. They also discussed what action should be taken when a storm is approaching; like
closing the beach? The surfing community is against closing the beach. Philippe believes that the jetty will be
closed when storms are approaching. It was suggested that th e foundation reach out to Thelma Garcia
(superintendent at Flour Bluff High School) regarding doing a presentation there.
He will check with the foundation about doing a presentation for this committee.
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Darren let the group know that the Gulf Beach Lifeguards will be doing a presentation on beach safety for the
Education Foundation alongside the Je’Sani Smith Foundation.
Phillipe will also ask for a legislative update on proposed new state lifeguarding laws.
b. Flour Bluff Recreation Council’s vision and plan
Shirley Thornton is speaking on behalf of the Outdoor Recreation Enhancement Committee (OREC); she is the
chair, and this is an ad hoc committee for the Flour Bluff Citizens Council. Shirley gave the committee a
presentation of OREC’s goals. The purpose of the OREC is to be looking at the surrounding public land and come
up for solutions for enhancement. OREC has received acknowledgement from many officials that, this work needs
to continue.
Shirley spoke about plans for the Oso hike and bike trail and the Grove Trailhead, which is adjacent to the former
Holly bridge. The OREC would like to have the former rail bridge over Oso Bay between Holly and Division Roads
turned into a hike and bike trail, which would connect Oso Wetlands Preserve to Flour Bluff. Next, she spoke of
the ponds in Flour Bluff; the plan is to connect the Laguna Shores with Redhead Pond with trails and boardwalks.
This will need Federal and State permits due to current ownership. OREC would like the Parks and Recreation
department’s help with making Redhead Pond updated and available for educational use. Ideas for the
enhancement of Duncan Pond, Dimmitt Park and Waldron Park and Pond were talked about; all these needing
restoration and enhancements, to make them better recreational and educational spaces. All of these ideas are in
the planning stage and no development is currently scheduled.
Shirley asked for a letter of support from WBAC for this project and any ideas anyone may have. Larisa (also a
member of FBCC) explained that as a citizen group, they can apply for grant help and is hoping the City will help
with applying. They do have some applications pending.
Howard suggested that Shirley give a presentation to PRAC and he will get that going.
Terry made a motion for WBAC to support the enhancement of the three ponds, in the Laguna Shores, Dimmit
Park, and the Grove Trailhead/Oso bridge walkway as presented by FBCC, Philippe seconded, unanimously
approved. Motion passed.
2. Old Business
a. Packery Channel Repair
Darren reported that he has not heard anything. Philippe reported that Diedre will be doing a presentation in a
couple of weeks, but he knew nothing new, but if something is heard it will be shared.
VlI. PARK AND RECREATION ACTION COMMITTEE – Howard Schauer
Howard reported that PRAC was continuing bond work and doesn’t have an update on North Beach. He is going
to speak to his committee regarding Shirley’s project and will let them know that WBAC supports it.
VlII. ISAC Report
Terry attended some of the meeting, and he did get asked questions for Darren. One was, if city staff and
lifeguards were alerting visitors if beach flooding was occurring, Darren responded that city staff were only
warning campers and not day-use visitors of flood/high-tide dangers. Day-use visitors would only be warned if
there was a beach closure, which is an unlikely measure. Philippe reminded the group that there are weather
alerts. Philippe said that the flooding is a seasonal happening and will be happening more and more every year.
He did say that a request for high water warning could be asked of the National Weather Service. Darren will add
this information to text alerts if they coincide with rip current alerts that are already being sent out.
There was also discussion at ISAC regarding the location of the beach maintenance service building and the new
lifeguard stands platforms on the beach.
lX. BMAC Report – Cliff Schlabach
Cliff reported that the last meeting on April 21st was hybrid, some attended virtually and some in person. The
committee discussed Bob Hall pier parking lot and the GLO not wanting concrete used on the beach. This group
is heavily involved in looking at plans (and site tours) for all kinds of stru ctures, it’s a heavy load!
X. STAFF LIAISON REPORT
Darren reported the shower is in at 3A, and hopefully the one at Zahn by Memorial Day.
Details about new beach lifeguard stands that were purchased, and more specifically the construction of platforms
being constructed for them to sit upon at the beach are as follows:
- The City is allowed 60’ of space for a stand.
- There are eight permanent locations for the new lifeguard stands that are roughly the same locations that
lifeguard stands have been placed in recent years (see attached map). Three on the north, and five on the
southside of Packery Channel.
- One stand will be mobile but will mostly be moved around the beach north of Packery Channel.
- Each permanent location will have a lifeguard stand sitting on top of an elevated base, that will be
constructed on the beach.
- Each base will have an area of 15 x 20 ft and a height of ~ 2 ft.
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- Each base will contain beach sand and be constructed with wooden walls and a wooden deck constructed
from 3 x 12 boards.
- Bollards and signs will be placed 15 ft away from either side of the platforms (perpendicular to the shoreline)
to allow for the parking of lifeguard and other emergency vehicles. This is less than the distance allowable to
be marked off.
- Explicit permission for the construction of the bollards and bases was given by the TGLO (recently).
- The purpose of the lifeguard stands is to protect the lifeguard stands from being inundated by water during
high water events.
- The new lifeguard stands are currently located at the seawall parking lot (Michael J. Ellis Beach).
Terry requested that this committee get a copy of the lifeguard stand locations and a picture of the new stand;
Darren will send.
Getting ready for Memorial Day: installing extra trash cans
The city is still looking for lifeguards; there are currently 21 vacancies out of the total allowable 44 lifeguard
positions. Meredith will post a flyer at Coffee Waves for lifeguards.
Philippe asked about the recommendation WBAC made to the City about the lifeguards’ wages and Darren said it
is with HR; they are researching the situation.
Terry suggested that it would good to have a lifeguard walk up and down the jetty; be proactive.
They are picking up trash and doing what they can at North Beach and there will be a lifeguard stand and a
mobile lifeguard at McGee.
XI. IDENTIFY ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON NEXT AGENDA
1. Je’Sani Smith Foundation presentation
2. Packery Channel Update
XlI. ADJOURNMENT
As there was no further business the meeting adjourned at 7:17 pm.